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Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by threeseed on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @02:12AM (#16855937)
I was under the impression you can disable all of the telemetry. Is that not the case ?

And Pro really refers to Prosumer not Professional.

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by bjpbakker on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @02:41AM (#16856050)
According to blog posts and articles on tech sites there still is no way to disable all telemetry on windows 10. I don’t use windows for a long time now so I cannot tell myself.

Anyhow, it is /not/ ok for an OS to spy on their users by default - even if you can disable it manually.

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by neko_koneko on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @04:51AM (#16856592)
By the way, is there a list of things that Windows collects about computer/user activity?
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by MikusR on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @07:03AM (#16857201)
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by lsh on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @08:52AM (#16857784)
wow - that is comprehensive and terrifying.

I skimmed the list and these particular ones jumped out at me:

> Movies > URL for a specific two-second chunk of content if there is an error

> Music & TV > Service URL for song being downloaded from the music service -- collected when an error occurs to facilitate restoration of service

> Photos App > File source data -- local, SD card, network device, and OneDrive

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by NiveaGeForce on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @10:25AM (#16858587)
That's only when you have it set to Full level, which is not the same as Basic level, which is pretty harmless.
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by bjpbakker on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @11:10AM (#16859033)
Even though the "basic" telemetry data is quite the list [0], I agree that it's not nearly as intrusive as the "full" set.

> only when you have it set to Full level "you" (probably any users) won't set the level to "full"; this is the default setting (source [1]). MS only offers "basic" as opt-out (which it really is not).

[0] - https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/basic...

[1] - https://www.ghacks.net/2018/03/12/configure-telemetry-window...

update: formatting

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by batuhanw on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:19AM (#16856715)
-Everything
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by lsh on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @08:53AM (#16857793)
before anyone else downvotes the parent, take a look at the URL in the sibling comment about what is captured.

they're capturing more data about you than you probably realise exists to be captured.

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by NiveaGeForce on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @10:25AM (#16858581)
That's only when you have it set to Full level, which is not the same as Basic level, which is pretty harmless.
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by aepiepaey on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:33AM (#16856771)
Even on Enterprise you can't disable all telemetry.

See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/confi....

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by drexlspivey on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @04:03AM (#16856418)
According to my pihole, with every telemetry option turned off, it stills tries to phone home hundreds of times per day.
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by giancarlostoro on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @10:48AM (#16858816)
You sure it's not checking for updates?
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by drexlspivey on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @01:49PM (#16860621)
No, updates work fine. Some blocked domains : settings-win.data.microsoft.com, v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com, mobile.pipe.aria.microsoft.com, nexusrules.officeapps.live.com
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by giancarlostoro on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @06:54PM (#16863016)
Really making me want to setup PiHole now... any tips on what to block?
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by drexlspivey on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @02:34PM (#16869765)
This is my /etc/pihole/adlists.list https://pastebin.com/ssqea2nW
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by debeers on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @04:54AM (#16856606)
You can't. It still phones home a lot, even at the lowest telemetry settings. The only edition where you can disable it is LTSB and even there it is hidden in Local Group Policy Editor.
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by setquk on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @02:40AM (#16856048)
No you can turn it down from 11 to 5 basically.
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by oldcynic on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @12:08PM (#16859613)
No it really doesn't.

Microsoft have marketed it to business and portrayed it as intended for professional business use ever since XP introduced the version split. Until large enough to be allowed near volume licensing SKUs, when you pass some point past a hundred seats, it's the most professional offering a business can get.

That covers nearly all small and medium businesses.

Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by michaelcampbell on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @10:38AM (#16858725)
Ah, well, as long as we can redefine previously understood terms to mean something different, I guess all's fair.
Re:Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new I... by mkup on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @12:30PM (#16859842)
It gathers a lot of info and transfers it to vast number of domains under Microsoft control:

http://www.pcministry.com/win10_telemetry/summary_stats_and_...