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Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by winthrowe on Monday April 16, 2018 @06:32PM (#16853467)
Information accessible here was SUPPOSED to be all public, with sensitive information located elsewhere, however a handful of improperly redacted documents were also published to the site. Here's a more technical article: https://evandentremont.com/some-information-on-the-freedom-o...
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by munk-a on Monday April 16, 2018 @08:27PM (#16854316)
So this is a classic case of a subcontractor doing substandard work, leaving a security hole big enough to drive a truck through, and then trying to sue someone to save face... Sigh.

If some of those documents weren't appropriate to be viewed by the general populace then the company was criminally negligent in their handling of the data, the "hacker" saw an open door with a sign reading "free information" on it and didn't know any better before running a crawler over the documents to grab them.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by cnniris393 on Monday April 16, 2018 @08:54PM (#16854454)
And the cries by old geezers in charge, yet clueless of what it is they’re “in-charge of”, that he stole it are eye rolling

It’s ageism but at this point I’m pretty convinced old people should be term limited from office

The problems we seem to be facing are almost entirely due to their inability to move on

Youth shouldn’t spend their lives kowtowing to geezers that quit thinking and are simply peddling what’s become etched in their neurons and “the rules”

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by rdiddly on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:03PM (#16854814)
You should've stopped yourself at "it's ageism." Surely you wouldn't have had the audacity to be like "It's racism but at this point I think black people should be kept out of office."

The problems here are the usual problems within governments: venality, vanity, laziness, posturing and a certain bureaucratic indifference to human life. Which are traits well established among young and old alike.

Age isn't what's keeping anybody from understanding the technical issues here, either. A computer isn't some kind of magical oracle that only reveals its secrets to the young. Peel back the layers and I'll bet you $100 CAD it boils down to a failure of the institutional hierarchy and the communication therein. With uninformed-electorate-flavored sprinkles on top.

Young tech nerds rarely get voted into office because very few of them have done enough living to be able to assemble a coherent vision of reality and a way forward for an entire, let's say province. Don't get me wrong, a lot of successful older politicians do a shitty job of this too. But anyway, anyone who can do all that, or fake it well enough, quickly finds that messing around with computers is below his pay grade and not worth squandering his attention on. But they will still presumably have such people in their organization somewhere, and should be able to get from them a summary of WTF's going on and why.

EDIT: I guess what I'm even further saying is that this is yet another example of what's become a mantra of mine lately: The missing ingredient is almost never tech and almost always leadership.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by emj on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:12AM (#16856679)
> The problems here are the usual problems within governments:

The problems is with humans, you have those problems in courts, companies, charities, churches, clubs and small gatherings of people. The only protection we have against it is to recognize that this will always happen and strive to correct it before and when it has happend. I feel this is a closely related to Meetoo, you need to able to ask for forgiveness, but often the people accused never really get what they have done wrong and belittle their actions.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by hermitdev on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:52PM (#16855055)
It's not ageism. It's incompetence. If the content he was allowed to download sans-credentials was publicly available, the host/admin fucked up. If I do a wget for {random_url} and it returns a 200 range response code - that's not my fault - that's the admin. If I'm not supposed to see it, it should return a 403.

Not Canadian, but I expect this teen to be let off completely free.

I write this as I'm trying to recover my wife's website by scraping archive.org and respecting various 400 & 500 level errors.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by jstarfish on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:28PM (#16854650)
> It’s ageism but at this point I’m pretty convinced old people should be term limited from office

Resource depletion from overpopulation aside, the lack of social progress we will see once we manage to extend life to the point of immortality is one of the more depressing outlooks I can imagine. Old ideas will never die.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by naasking on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @07:18AM (#16857270)
Restoring neuroplasticity is a necessity for true immortality, so I'm not sure it will be much of an issue to be honest.
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by jinfiesto on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:02PM (#16854503)
I'm not sure about age-limiting old people, but I'm starting to think a basic technological literacy test might not be out of place.
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by Sean1708 on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @07:55AM (#16857465)
If there's two things people in tech seem to vastly underestimate it's how many old people are technologically literate and how many young people are technologically illiterate. I wouldn't be surprised if there are correlations but you're right, age itself isn't the issue.
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by walrus01 on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:05PM (#16854828)
I'm just surprised they didn't "redact" the documents by drawing black boxes over top of text in the Adobe Acrobat PDF editing tool... If their web presence is that clueless it seems like exactly the sort of thing that would happen.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/05/pdf_radacting...

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by lysp on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:44PM (#16855008)
Something similar happened in Australia last year.

Federal Government ministers all have their phone bill summaries released as part of public record with private information removed.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/how-hundreds-of-parliamentary-mo...

The contractor redacted the phone numbers in this instance by changing the font colour to white (same as the background) in the PDFs uploaded to the government disclosure website. So if you exported to text, or highlighted text, the phone numbers were clearly visible.

So most federal members of parliament, the former prime minister (Australia's equivalent of president) and opposition leader all had their numbers leaked.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by stickdogg on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @07:38AM (#16857369)
. The large percentage of people are still clueless these days.
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by logicallee on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @03:00AM (#16856137)
>Federal Government ministers all have their phone bill summaries released as part of public record with private information removed

Why?

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by beobab on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @03:31AM (#16856276)
Because they want a phone line that they can talk to their spouse and children without having to field thousands of calls from well-meaning people who want to wish them a good day?
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by logicallee on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @06:03AM (#16856906)
Sorry, I should have written

>Federal Government ministers all have their phone bill summaries released as part of public record

Why?

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by chongli on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @08:19AM (#16857598)
So that the public knows they aren't making secret phone calls to lobbyists or what have you. The purpose of transparency is always to reduce corruption.
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by vageli on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @08:13AM (#16866683)
But they redact the phone numbers so how can you do that?
Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by keketi on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:01AM (#16856644)
> who want to wish them a good day

I see what you did there.

Re:Teenager facing prison for downloading unsecured files fr... by stickdogg on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @07:39AM (#16857378)
Lmao. "Wishing to mean them a good day"? Really?