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Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by thijser on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:54PM (#16852670)
"When you visit a site or app that uses our services, we receive information even if you’re logged out or don’t have a Facebook account."

Then at the end under "What controls do I have": "you can opt out of these types of ads entirely — so you never see ads on Facebook based on information we have received from other websites and apps." Except that that's only possible when you're logged in. The link they provide doesn't work for logged out users. It seems they don't provide any control tools for logged out users/non Facebook users.

Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by troupe on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:51PM (#16853157)
Keep in mind they don't say they won't collect and store the information. They just won't use it to customize your ads. They are still collecting the information and will find other ways to use it.
Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by forapurpose on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:53PM (#16853172)
Also, opting out of the ads doesn't opt out of the data collection. The problem is the privacy violation; once they do that, I guess targeted ads are better than untargeted ones. (Or do they mean that they won't share my data with advertisers if I opt out?)
Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by EquallyJust on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @02:13AM (#16855941)
You can opt out of FB ads without having an account via http://optout.aboutads.info.

Not sure why their site only sometimes shows this link :/.

Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by smichel17 on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @02:49AM (#16856091)
That requires me to enable 3rd party cookies.
Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by mgummelt on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:04PM (#16852755)
The type of ads you see on FB is only relevant to FB users.
Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by thijser on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:14PM (#16852845)
Facebook also has the audience network, which serves ads on other websites and apps.
Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by gervase on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:11PM (#16852823)
Then I seem not to understand the benefit they see from tracking non-users' information - how can this be of benefit to advertisers if these users are never targeted? In particular, what benefits would be generated by linking this tracking information with the real identify of a non-FB user (that couldn't also be leveraged in a semi-anonymous way)?

In other words, I see the benefit to FB of being able to say "Person A likes 1, 2, 3; User B likes 1 and 2 - perhaps they also like 3?" where A is a non-user and B is a FB user, but I don't see the benefit derived from identifying Person A to advertisers if they can only target that person on FB, where they aren't a user?

Re:What Data Does Facebook Collect When I’m Not Using Facebo... by mgummelt on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:18PM (#16852879)
They don't allow advertisers to target non-users. I'm sure they use non-user data for clustering, just as you described.

They also probably use it when the user finally does create a FB account.