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Re:Amazon warehouse workers 'peed in bottles' fearing punish... by delecti on Monday April 16, 2018 @02:26PM (#16851453)
I think it largely comes down to a few factors: Amazon does a lot of hiring, changing jobs is a hassle that many people won't do just because of momentum, and we naturally only hear about the very worst of what it's like to work at Amazon. If you keep hiring enough developers, enough of them will stick it out thanks to momentum (through possibly sub-optimal but not necessarily tortuous conditions) for long enough to have a large number of developers at any given time.

I worked at Amazon for ~5.5 years, and it was fine. I wasn't in bliss, but it wasn't awful, it was fine. I eventually left not because conditions worsened but because my team's responsibilities eventually shifted to work I disliked enough to overcome the momentum (web ads), and I found out they have a very generous severance program if you know what to ask about.

Re:Amazon warehouse workers 'peed in bottles' fearing punish... by stone-monkey on Monday April 16, 2018 @03:21PM (#16851901)
>> I found out they have a very generous severance program if you know what to ask about.

What do you mean? Are you referring to the severance you get if you leave on a PIP?

Re:Amazon warehouse workers 'peed in bottles' fearing punish... by delecti on Monday April 16, 2018 @03:35PM (#16852009)
Yes, but you can also opt-in to that. I told my manager I was dissatisfied and thinking of leaving, he suggested I talk to HR about the pivot program. They then put me on a PIP so I could accept the severance option.

Also I had been on an actual PIP before and I'm pretty sure that option wasn't mentioned.

Re:Amazon warehouse workers 'peed in bottles' fearing punish... by jackgolding on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:35PM (#16854683)
this is crazy to me, check out /r/consulting they view being on a PIP as a doomsday clock where the company will find any excuse to fire you in the next 6 months.
Re:Amazon warehouse workers 'peed in bottles' fearing punish... by delecti on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @09:01AM (#16857831)
I can't speak universally, but I "passed" mine, and lasted another full year before leaving willingly. My manager seemed to very earnestly want me to pass, and implied that most people do.

All that said, I would advise that if you get put on a PIP, just take the severance right away. You're ineligible for a raise or additional stock grants in the cycle following the PIP.