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Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters by r1ch on Monday April 16, 2018 @02:14PM (#16851338)
This kind of behaviour is very standard in the anti cheating world. Some go much further like inspecting the Windows DNS cache for evidence of cheat servers. Calling this spyware is rather misleading.

Cloud based antivirus services are even worse in this regard.

Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters by serf on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:02PM (#16852734)
>Calling this spyware is rather misleading.

No, it's clearly spyware. They are enumerating lists of software loaded on client computers without explicit permission other than what's granted broadly in their ToS/EULA, and without speaking of the feature.

The component got removed right after their use of it -- indicating either sneakiness or internal qualms about the use of such methods -- and if one believes the guilty , it affected legitimate users, too.

>Some go much further like inspecting the Windows DNS cache...

Why is looking at DNS caches 'going further' than enumerating all software into hashes for remote analysis? DNS might have more embarrassing shit to expose on a personal level, but generally a glimpse into installed software is much more exclusive/rare/uncommon . DNS gets' discussed between your machine and a million others down the line; it hasn't been considered very private for some time now.

Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters by dylz on Monday April 16, 2018 @02:27PM (#16851458)
One of the largest Korean "anticheat" companies also sells cloud antivirus and reuses the same code signing certificate for their anticheat rootkit. I've seen a few outright change DNS resolvers to themselves instead of just looking at cache too.
Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters by JadeNB on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:06PM (#16852227)
> Calling this spyware is rather misleading.

Does its ubiquity invalidate the term? It is software that spies on me, and its presence is, at best, less-than-explicitly communicated. That seems like spyware to me.

Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters by ryanlol on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:08PM (#16852250)
It’s not misleading at all to call most client-side anticheats spyware.
Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters by knodi on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:13PM (#16852290)
so you're saying I can simply bypass detection by having a remote proxy? Simple and cheap ($5 Digital Ocean server)