I really don't care, because it's important enough to repeat in any discussion about rebuilding the Web. Involve some real systems people. Design a real app platform, with multi-language support, especially compiled languages. Have a cohesive end to end development story.

If current web stacks aren't bloated and over-engineered, then I don't know what would qualify.

Imagine it would get even worse ;-)

It’d be nice if there was a possibility of real competition at the basic platform level. The browser model is so entrenched, yet it still amazes me that we’ve been stuck with it for two decades.