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Re:‘Moderate’ drinking guidelines are too loose, study says by nabla9 on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:33AM (#16847739)
> European countries having say a beer or a glass of wine with lunch is normal.

It's not a historical constant.

Alcohol consumption in Europe started to skyrocket after he WWII and it peaked around 60s (25 liters of pure alcohol per person per year in France) and has gradually declined. In the last decade or so the consumption has fallen dramatically. Now it's something like 12.5 liters per year in France. Still twice the rest of the world.

That 'European alcohol culture' (socially accepted constant consumption) comes with heavy cost. Most harm from alcohol use (by numbers) falls to heavy users who are are not seen as alcoholics. Differed diseases, neglect of children, fetal alcohol syndrome, etc.

Some statistics from France. Prevalence of alcohol use disorders and alcohol dependence (%), 2010* first number is disorder percentage, second is alcohol dependence

    Males               8.8 , 4.7
    Females             2.5 , 1.3
    Both sexes          5.5 , 2.9
    Europe              7.5 , 4.0
source: http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/publications/global_alcoh...
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Re:‘Moderate’ drinking guidelines are too loose, study says by walshemj on Monday April 16, 2018 @06:23AM (#16847915)
Sounds like you are cherry picking your start date of course during ww2 wine and beer production was supressed in Europe.
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Re:‘Moderate’ drinking guidelines are too loose, study says by nabla9 on Monday April 16, 2018 @08:06AM (#16848347)
Point I was making was that the consumption and culture around alcohol is not constant. There have been fluctuations over the centuries.

Youth today in Europe are realizing that constant 'moderate' consumption is not healthy and are cutting it back. They want to live long healthy lives.

The older generation of functional European alcoholics is represented by Jean-Claude Juncker, The President of the European Commission. Hist typical drunk uncle behaviour will not be tolerated in the future: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

Pint baby from 90's is good example of how irresponsible European alcohol culture was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GahWcnBvnSA

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Re:‘Moderate’ drinking guidelines are too loose, study says by KozmoNau7 on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:54AM (#16849364)
Juncker's level is a lot more than one beer or a glass of wine with lunch, though.
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Re:‘Moderate’ drinking guidelines are too loose, study says by walshemj on Monday April 16, 2018 @06:29PM (#16853440)
He is no George "Ugandan Discussions" Brown is he
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Re:‘Moderate’ drinking guidelines are too loose, study says by KozmoNau7 on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @03:05AM (#16856159)
Maybe he's just Tired and Emotional.
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