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Re:Autonomous braking: 'The most significant development sin... by squam on Monday April 16, 2018 @01:41AM (#16846864)
Perhaps Tesla should consider licensing this tech from Volvo.

/snark

Re:Autonomous braking: 'The most significant development sin... by taneq on Monday April 16, 2018 @02:50AM (#16847127)
Serious question: Would the Volvo system have picked up and appropriately responded to the gore point involved in the recent fatal Tesla crash? Any time anyone raised the question of Tesla's AEB's reliability, the responses were along the lines of "no AEB is perfect", "AEB only works on cars", etc.
Re:Autonomous braking: 'The most significant development sin... by unityByFreedom on Monday April 16, 2018 @03:38AM (#16847301)
> Would the Volvo system have picked up and appropriately responded to the gore point involved in the recent fatal Tesla crash?

I'd rather ask, would the Volvo system steer towards the barrier like Tesla's AP may have done [1] [2]?

"IIHS research shows that AEB systems meeting the commitment would reduce rear-end crashes by 40 percent." [3]

AEB on its own may save lives. Whether autosteer systems do or not is an open question.

[1] https://youtu.be/VVJSjeHDvfY?t=37s

[2] https://youtu.be/6QCF8tVqM3I?t=28s

[3] http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/u-s-dot-and-iihs-a...

Re:Autonomous braking: 'The most significant development sin... by taneq on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:20AM (#16847462)
Both are good questions.

1) Do other autosteering systems (such as Volvo's) share this failure mode? (I don't know much about Pilot Assist but it seems to require a lead car to follow, is that right? Apparently Pilot Assist 2 doesn't, though? Currently reading http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?348321-Auto-Pilo... and it doesn't sound great.)

2) Should AEB stop the car if there's something solid in front of it, regardless of what the autosteer system is doing? (I would have thought so, and it's disappointing that in this case it didn't!)