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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by icedchai on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:38PM (#16824202)
Do you really think they're obligated to provide you absolutely everything they know about you? I don't.

I would say if they provide everything you've directly provided, they've fulfilled their "obligation."

Obligation is in quotes, because I don't actually believe they should even be required to do this.

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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by abalone on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:49PM (#16824303)
> I would say if they provide everything you've directly provided, they've fulfilled their "obligation."

Post likes, shares and search history are all examples of data you've directly provided that they're omitting from the export.

As for your principles, when you ask the FBI for their file on you their obligation is not limited to data you've directly provided.

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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by icedchai on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:05PM (#16824453)
According to https://www.facebook.com/help/405183566203254?helpref=faq_co... likes, shares, and searches are included.

The FBI is subject to FOIA. FB is not, obviously.

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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by abalone on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:16PM (#16824554)
No, that actually says it's not included in the Downloaded Info.

It's in the Activity Log, which is omitted from the download. This is not obvious and misleading. In fact someone asked whether they could download their activity and Facebook directed them to the Downloaded Info, which omits it.[1]

As for FOIA, you're missing the point. Of course FB is not subject to such a law. The whole debate right now is whether it should be. If you request an organization's "file" on you, it should be comprehensive and not selectively omit the creepiest stuff.

[1] https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=6345563...

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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by bogomipz on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:50PM (#16824313)
>"Do you really think they're obligated to provide you absolutely everything they know about you?"

I would say no if before you signed up they were willing to tell you everything they "intend" to collect about once you agree.

And when I say "tell you" I mean an itemized list in plain simple english not a thousand pages of obfuscated legalese.

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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by DonaldFisk on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:58PM (#16824389)
If you've directly provided Facebook with some information, you could have recorded this at the time, so their telling you they know that is something you could have figured out for yourself as it's no more than a reminder of what you've already told them. If that's all the law requires them to do then it either needs to be repealed as it's practically toothless, or amended so that they're obliged to tell you more.
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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by ghaydarov on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:35PM (#16824703)
If I did not directly provided them with my data, they would have stolen it. So, yes, I think they have to provide and delete upon my request.
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Re:I Downloaded the Information That Facebook Has on Me by DonaldFisk on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:43PM (#16824767)
They might have deduced it from other data they have obtained legitimately, but as it's still data about you they have, they should tell you it and if it's incorrect you should be able to ask them to delete it.
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