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Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret... by jancsika on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:15PM (#16822383)
I've harped on this before, but I think it's relevant here, too-- I'd love some kind of FLOSS sandbox, FLOSS centralized social network, and FLOSS "good-faith" adversary group to help invalidate ineffective and ineffectual software/tech.

If someone starts down the rabbithole of encrypted email, Tor, key-signing parties, etc., there should be a safe place they can go (physically and/or online) to get absolutely walloped by good-natured hackers who will do everything short of permanently harming the person's hardware/reputation to show them they don't know what the hell they are doing.

Without this, these efforts will fall flat because the users (and even devs in many cases) aren't doing a good job of testing whether their systems work. The only sure way to test them is to get the internet to hate you, and that's too big a price to pay for testing a privacy system.

It's a bit like someone running tests and celebrating their algo as the most performant without realizing the compiler simply optimized out the algo. Chances are that person is going to have a bad time when the thing goes into production.

There's also a fringe-benefit, which is that users/devs who don't give up and continue getting walloped will quickly realize the value of credential revocation and tell others about that value.

Edit: just so it's clear-- the point is for the user/dev to be able to enter the group/place when they wish to be taught, and leave when they are done. That's the current problem with testing by making the internet hate you-- you can't turn it off.

Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret... by CM30 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:44PM (#16822655)
Yeah, I'd like to see something like this too. The TV show Hunted might be a real life opsec version to some degree, but a system which is online and open to anyone who wants to participate here would be a lot better. Could even be tied into a bounty system or something, where you put money in and then ask the site to share it among whichever people manage to find out your personal information/bypass your systems.