Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret...
by msla on Thursday April 12, 2018 @11:34AM
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Being able to share a private thing and have it remain private is the whole point of encryption.
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Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret...
by ben509 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @11:41AM
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Encryption deals with secrecy, though. We do talk about "private" and "public" in encryption, but that's an abuse of the terms. "Private" is shorthand meaning inside a secure perimeter, and "public" means outside the secure perimeter.
Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret...
by msla on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:42PM
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It's more interesting to differentiate the social meanings of "private" and "secret": When I send a letter in an envelope, it's private. It's not for your eyes. It might not be secret, however, because I might not mind the information in the letter being publicly revealed.
That distinction between "private" and "secret" is something the opponents of encryption forever try to erase, by claiming that things which are not secret should not be private, which has the effect of making privacy suspicious by default, instead of unremarkable. It's the snail-mail equivalent of trying to shame everyone into sending their mail using postcards, so someone who sends "a lot" of envelopes is now a target of suspicion, for some arbitrary definition of "a lot" which changes based on context.
Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret...
by muvek on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:51PM
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I disagree with you. Encryption deals with privacy. Steganography deals with secrecy.
Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret...
by jlgaddis on Thursday April 12, 2018 @11:39AM
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I think aaronchall meant that if you tell someone else about it, it's not private anymore.
Kinda like the old saying about the only way three people can keep a secret is if two of 'em are dead.
Re:Privacy underground: a class on privacy, held at a secret...
by jacquesm on Thursday April 12, 2018 @11:50AM
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It's still private, it is no longer a secret. It hovers somewhere between being a 'public secret' or 'public knowledge' without the general public being aware of it because it hasn't been published yet. And in that sense the real world is very much different than the web, there everything that is not explicitly protected is published.