Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL major release

Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by toyg on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:39AM (#16810098)

Sometimes I wonder if the opensource movement, with its perennial “update anxiety”, is actually busy generating an industry of legacy maintenance. In a way, it’s a natural extension of the original “development is free but you pay for support” idea, but I don’t think anyone openly elaborated it into a long-term revenue-generating strategy. It looks like a slam-dunk, to be honest, with the only caveat being that work is extremely unfashionable.

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by sametmax on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:53AM (#16810181)

It's not the opensource movement. It's IT in general. A lot of software stopped working with the windows 10 update that was forced on the users.

Android breaks the API regularly by changing the permission game.

The PSF has limited resources (3 million of dollar of budget) to exists (this includes running pypi and organising pyconf), but I think it's track record is quite good, even comparing to commercial products.

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by vetinari on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @08:32AM (#16810415)

Actually, Android doesn't break the API, even by changing the definition of permissions. If you have a breakage, investigate your app manifest, what API version you are targeting. Android frameworks shim the old behaviors for the apps that declare the use of the old API versions.

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by sametmax on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @10:18AM (#16811300)

E.G: Since API Level 19, the Alarm system has been completely remade. One must check the API Level to act some how or some differently. The same is for permissions after the advent of Android OS 6.0+. But we still need the support library to give Fragments and the ActionBar to API Levels lower than 11. And VectorDrawables to API Levels lower than 23. And many more objects.

It's not that simple.

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by vetinari on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @11:40AM (#16812250)

The shims are managed by targetSdkVersion, i.e. if you declare targetSdkVersion >= 23, you will get the new permission system (because it was introduced in 23) if running on [23,maxSdkVersion] device; if it is running on device that has API level [minSdkVersion,23), you get the old one; if you declare it < 23, you will get the old one, always, on newer devices too.

The targetSdkVersion says what you designed against. If you claim supporting the new API, you should handle the new API (and that includes detecting what the underlying device supports). That does not preclude you from including the support library needed for lower API levels still supported.

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by phonon on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @01:47PM (#16813565)

Except if you release a new/updated app, it MUST target a recent (less than a year) targetSdkVersion.

"2019 onwards: Each year the targetSdkVersion requirement will advance. Within one year following each Android dessert release, new apps and app updates will need to target the corresponding API level or higher."

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/12/improving-...

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by vetinari on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @04:36PM (#16815320)

That's Play Store policy for new apps and app updates, not a technical limitation of the OS. Old apps will keep working just like they did before, the new APIs will not break them.

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Re:Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL ... by asdfk on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @11:21AM (#16812020)

the old trick is to get your changes to the main branch so you dont need to maintain your it. that is also why anyone bothers to do so in the first place

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