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Re:Ask HN: Raw SQL vs. ORM? by timrichard on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:12AM (#16809894)
Just to mention another alternative, I've been using a QueryBuilder library on the last two projects. The code's prettier than it would be with raw SQL, plus there aren't ORM downsides.
Re:Ask HN: Raw SQL vs. ORM? by pserwylo on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:20AM (#16809969)
Good point. We had great success doing this with our PHP code base. For us it wasn't about pretty or not-pretty code, but rather about type safety. The idea that you can have a method which accepts "WhereClause $constraints" instead of "string $constraints" means you can be much more confident that the code is correct.

We actually wrote a custom query builder because none of the available ones (e.g. Doctrine) had the type safety that we desired. A direct parallel to what we used is the Java library JOOQ, in terms of its querybuilder API [0].

[0] https://www.jooq.org/doc/3.10/manual/sql-building/sql-statem...

Re:Ask HN: Raw SQL vs. ORM? by Allstar on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:26AM (#16810024)
Same here, we use Knex.js Querybuilder to build queries and fallback to `knex.raw()` for very specific SQL queries.
Re:Ask HN: Raw SQL vs. ORM? by timrichard on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:56AM (#16810201)
Ah, coincidence... Knex is the one I've been using too :-)