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Re:Zuckerberg struggles to name a single Facebook competitor by loeg on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @06:40PM (#16806247)
Facebook is an ad company. The product they sell is targeted ads. As a customer who wants to buy ad space, you can go to Facebook, or you can go to Google, or a myriad of other players.

Yahoo and Bing are not significant Google competitors. They aren't even independent — Yahoo search is Bing.

As a social media user, you're not the customer, you're the product.

Re:Zuckerberg struggles to name a single Facebook competitor by eesmith on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @02:29AM (#16808548)
I don't believe your statement is complete.

Take a look at all of the companies where a court determined that the company abused its monopoly power.

Every single one of them had "a myriad of other players" in the market.

So the existence of other players doesn't mean that Facebook doesn't have market power, it doesn't mean that FB isn't a monopoly, and it doesn't mean that FB can't abuse its market power.

Only a few hours ago, jwz (who blocks links from HN - fwiw, we are HN products) at https://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/log/2018/04/10.html wrote:

> Advertising anywhere that is not Facebook simply does not work. We keep trying and keep getting nowhere.

> We hear that from other promoters and venues, too: everyone says "Yeah we only advertise on Facebook. Nothing else does any good."

> I hate that this is the case. A lot.

This is the sort of comment you see if a company has market power, where switching to other players is not an option.

Re:Zuckerberg struggles to name a single Facebook competitor by aoeusnth1 on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @02:13PM (#16813836)
If you use uMatrix, you can enable spoofing of your referrer header from HN so the link works :)
Re:Zuckerberg struggles to name a single Facebook competitor by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @06:54AM (#16809788)
That's not the entire story though. Facebook has multiple products and multiple layers of folks to sell to.

On one layer, they offer a social networking site to people, who become users. Then they take the information and sell it to advertisers to make money. Without the social networking site, Facebook wouldn't have its advertising business. There are more, I'm sure (governments are sometimes customers, for example).

There is only light competition for the advertising right now, but I'm going to guess we'll figure that stuff out as time goes on.

As far as the social networking itself, there are options, but none that can replace facebook's user functionality. There isn't anywhere robust enough to make change feasible. Instead, you can replace parts of facebook with other things and get partial functionality Your mother probably won't download a weird app just to talk to you instead of using messenger, for example, and your sister probably won't send you the pictures of the kids as often.

Re:Zuckerberg struggles to name a single Facebook competitor by bitmapbrother on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:43PM (#16807629)
I believe Google also supplies search services for Yahoo.