then why would that password tresor user win, after his credentials were leaked by a database breach -- before other select people that weren't compromised but abstained from said software.

Its generally incomprehensible to me why some people don't want to use password tresors -- its so much easier after all - but his argument was flawed.

Because parent said there would be a competition for whose password is cracked last.

My 16 char fully randomized passwords will not be cracked, so I win, along with everyone else using a password manager?

What's a password tresor? Did you mean password manager? Wiktionary tells me it means "treasure" in Catalan and Old French.

Tresor means safe in german so maybe he is a german that substituted the z in trezor

It also means "storehouse", so he probably means password manager.

I think he meant this: https://trezor.io/

And more specifically: https://trezor.io/passwords/

I meant password manager/safe.

Sorry for that mix up.