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Re:Android container in Chrome OS by saagarjha on Monday April 09, 2018 @03:38PM (#16796234)
> You know, there once was a time when we did everything in folders and didn't need the overhead of containerization just to keep well behaved things from stepping all over each other and breaking everything.

Those were the days…when we didn't have stupid watchdogs like memory protection and preemptive scheduling, and we all shared resources nicely and fairly, all the time. There were never crashes because someone touched memory that they weren't supposed to, or hangs because someone decided they were more important than all the other processes. No siree.

Re:Android container in Chrome OS by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Monday April 09, 2018 @06:57PM (#16797711)
Way to name some completely orthogonal problems that existed at the time. I'm surprised you didn't mention needing to go to a library to look things up or tie up the phone line to use the internet.
Re:Android container in Chrome OS by saagarjha on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @06:58AM (#16800429)
> Way to name some completely orthogonal problems that existed at the time.

What? These aren't completely orthogonal at all, they all fall under the umbrella of "process isolation" and containerization. There's a reason we have safeguards for processes in place; it's because it's a lot better when you have something to police badly behaved software than to trust that everything will work well 100% of the time.

Re:Android container in Chrome OS by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:45AM (#16801728)
Yes, I can see why orthogonal was a bad choice of words here.

Here's my point: those things mentioned were improvements on things that didn't work very well even for trusted applications that did nothing unreasonable.

When your development environment or even regular desktop software spreads itself all over the filehierarchy as a matter of practice, conflicting and interfering with every other application because it does the same thing, that's taking something that used to work just fine and breaking it. Then you add a layer of abstraction like containers to solve the mess you created.

Containers are a good idea for a lot of things, I just don't think I should need them to run normal everyday software.