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Re:Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook ... by blinkingled on Sunday April 08, 2018 @11:42AM (#16786592)
I just got the 16GB/i7/512 with 2 year warranty from Costco for $1599. And I agree totally that it's an amazing machine! I have left it running W10 for now because I don't want to have to modify the DSDT for S3. Modern standby on Windows is magical - instant desktop after lid opening with the fingerprint reader!

I wish it had better speakers though and I still feel like the low power CPU in a thin package might get bogged down when thermally throttled compared to full wattage one in a bigger config. But so far no such problem.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook ... by shazow on Sunday April 08, 2018 @11:51AM (#16786653)
> I don't want to have to modify the DSDT for S3.

While I did end up doing that (it wasn't as scary as I thought), turns out just adding `acpi.ec_no_wakeup=1` is sufficient on many distros (I presume ones with recent kernel/systemd versions, older versions seem to require hitting power to wake up).

> I wish it had better speakers though

I find the speakers fairly comparable to my old MBP, fwiw.

> and I still feel like the low power CPU in a thin package might get bogged down when thermally throttled compared to full wattage one in a bigger config.

Yea, kinda mixed feelings on this. I really like how cool/quiet it runs with the default config, but you're right that the throttling is fairly aggressive. I mostly went with the i7 for the L2 cache size rather than max freq so it doesn't bother me too much.

You can override the throttling thresholds a fair bit. The whole machine is fairly hackable (in the good sense). I plan to play around with underclocking at some point to get a few extra hours.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook ... by ericd on Sunday April 08, 2018 @01:21PM (#16787107)
I find the speakers to be awful, but I just use headphones most of the time anyway, so nbd. I have the last gen, so may be different.

I'm curious how you tuned the thermal throttling, though!

Re:Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook ... by blinkingled on Sunday April 08, 2018 @04:24PM (#16788140)
It might be this - https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/870u0a/t480s_linu...

TL;DR Booting Linux the throttling triggers at much lower temp than on Windows. Fixed by overwriting some MSRs I think.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook ... by ericd on Monday April 09, 2018 @01:51PM (#16795227)
Sweet, thanks!