News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by emodendroket on Sunday April 08, 2018 @01:14AM (#16784726)
I mean, if I'm being asked to believe that they swung the election to Donald Trump with $100k in Facebook ads and a group about dogs I guess I'd have to believe they're geniuses. But I am pretty skeptical. The evidence for the attribution of DNC hacks seems quite weak too (and at worst it involves the genius maneuver of making public what Hillary Clinton's campaign actually said and thought).
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by viraptor on Sunday April 08, 2018 @01:25AM (#16784759)
> if I'm being asked to believe that they swung the election to Donald Trump with $100k in Facebook ads and a group about dogs

I'm not sure anyone's asking that. The social media results were not about ads bought. The issue was about accounts pumping specific content which was then reshared by actual voters. (and official news outlets) Those accounts were happily switching between being really interested in US, then French elections, then Brexit, with some middle east commentary in between. There's lots of research about them a few google queries away.

Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by jakeogh on Sunday April 08, 2018 @04:51AM (#16785286)
You left out Bernie rallies and BLM.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by akhilcacharya on Sunday April 08, 2018 @02:11AM (#16784872)
>evidence for the attribution of DNC hacks seems quite weak too

I guess you know more than the CIA

Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by emodendroket on Sunday April 08, 2018 @08:11AM (#16785787)
Based on the information that has been presented to the public the case looks quite weak. For reasons I think should be obvious, I'm not willing to simply take the CIA's conclusions on the assumption that they have some secret evidence I haven't seen.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by akhilcacharya on Sunday April 08, 2018 @04:29PM (#16788169)
I take the CIA at their word because the alternatives are even more absurd.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by emodendroket on Sunday April 08, 2018 @08:38PM (#16789395)
Why would it be "absurd" for it to be anyone other than Russian intelligence?
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by akhilcacharya on Sunday April 08, 2018 @09:47PM (#16789718)
The other "theory" is the idea that the Clintons had Seth Rich killed or that it was another "insider" "mad about Bernie" even though he lost by several million votes.

So yes, it is absurd.

Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by emodendroket on Monday April 09, 2018 @08:41AM (#16792461)
I don't find the insider risk idea hard to believe. The primary stuff is still an open wound, and you could also easily imagine someone disgruntled for more prosaic reasons (e.g., passed over for a promotion). The fact is we have very little evidence for any of these ideas, and I, for one, don't find it reasonable to conclude that it is therefore obviously the fault of the Russians, especially given how unhinged and paranoid rhetoric about Russia has gotten.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by FreedomWarrior on Sunday April 08, 2018 @03:16AM (#16785043)
Yes, because the CIA would never lie to us, right?

They would never poison a Russian ex-spy to make Putin look bad?

I don't think this attack was orchestrated by a US entity. Or Russian for that matter. But when an entity that's hell-bent on controlling the worlds information gives a blanket statement about something without proof, I can only assume it's a lie.

Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by akhilcacharya on Sunday April 08, 2018 @03:47AM (#16785106)
I take the CIA's word, which is part of our own government, over the word of individuals who seek harm to American interests.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by fiblye on Sunday April 08, 2018 @05:06AM (#16785322)
It's easy to find information on bad things the CIA did [1], "minor" things of note including classic hits like "imposing a dictatorship in Iran, leading to an Islamic fundamentalist revolution and thus creating a powerful enemy against the US where there wasn't one before" and "trafficking drugs into the US and greatly amplifying America's drug problems", but looking for times where they actually did good for the country leaves me with little if anything.

The CIA's actions aren't done in national defense. They're a subversive organization. The fact the CIA suddenly shifted from being a shadowy government organization that people pretty much only knew about through action movies to being "open" about their ongoing activities within these past few years raises some red flags. Looking at the CIA's history, it's incredible that anyone would sit there and think they're trustworthy. I encounter people trying to say "well that's in the past" pretty often, which is a silly position to take, because why would they have any reason to stop?

[1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/2...

Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by emodendroket on Sunday April 08, 2018 @11:52AM (#16786654)
I just read Shah of Shahs and I think it was a great little introduction to modern Iran and where the deep-seated resentment of the United States in Iran comes from.
Re:Global cyber attack that left U.S. flag on screens by AFNobody on Sunday April 08, 2018 @02:43AM (#16784957)
You are ignoring a massive, expensive IRA operation in attempt to mislead for which multiple Russians were indicted because of what appears to be personal political bias.

Or is your belief a lifelong Republican is indicting people for lulz?