Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris...
by BeetleB on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:00PM
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>while Google/Facebook have your _actual_ data...
Is it _your_ data, or is it _their_ data? I'm asking in both the literal (based on terms of service, etc) and the more abstract way? Obviously, for the latter, it is a combination. I wish the narrative was discussed with that in mind. Most of what I tend to see is a widespread assumption that the user owns the data, and has given companies like Facebook very limited powers, and that somehow Facebook is breaking that trust. That narrative is, IMO, rubbish. We gave them very broad powers, and the users should accept the consequences.
>However, Google/Facebook break all the security layers because we explicitly _trust_ them with all our data.
If we explicitly _trust_ them, then are they _breaking_ anything? It just seems silly when we explicitly say (as many of my friends have said in the past) "I don't care what Facebook does with my information" and then we talk about it as if they are doing something wrong (using words like "break").
When I give my bank all my money with the understanding that they can hold it, as well as lend it, we don't refer to it as "breaking" anything.
Is it _your_ data, or is it _their_ data? I'm asking in both the literal (based on terms of service, etc) and the more abstract way? Obviously, for the latter, it is a combination. I wish the narrative was discussed with that in mind. Most of what I tend to see is a widespread assumption that the user owns the data, and has given companies like Facebook very limited powers, and that somehow Facebook is breaking that trust. That narrative is, IMO, rubbish. We gave them very broad powers, and the users should accept the consequences.
>However, Google/Facebook break all the security layers because we explicitly _trust_ them with all our data.
If we explicitly _trust_ them, then are they _breaking_ anything? It just seems silly when we explicitly say (as many of my friends have said in the past) "I don't care what Facebook does with my information" and then we talk about it as if they are doing something wrong (using words like "break").
When I give my bank all my money with the understanding that they can hold it, as well as lend it, we don't refer to it as "breaking" anything.