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Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by closeparen on Friday April 06, 2018 @04:28PM (#16777084)
Facebook and Google are not repositories to which you entrust your data for private safekeeping. The point of Facebook is to communicate with other people. The point of Google is to interact with shared repository of knowledge that learns from its own utilization. There is inherently a multi-party interest in everything Google or Facebook has about you, except for maybe never-shared Google Docs.

Bank vault analogues for private data do exist: iCloud, Dropbox, Crashplan, etc. If “your data” needs to leave your physical possession, that’s the sort of service it should go to.

Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by HenryBemis on Friday April 06, 2018 @04:43PM (#16777222)
iCloud: Apple has the keys :(

Dropbox: Dropbox has the keys :(

Crashplan: I have the keys :)

Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by oarsinsync on Saturday April 07, 2018 @02:24PM (#16781987)
> Crashplan: I have the keys :)

Do you really? They offer a web interface with access to your data. Do you enter the encryption keys when you access the web interface, or do you enter a username and password which then provides access to the encryption keys?

In that situation, who really has the keys?

Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by username223 on Sunday April 08, 2018 @08:38AM (#16785848)
IIRC, with Crashplan (RIP) you get a choice of whether to encrypt everything with a local key, in which case you're SOL if you lose it, or to encrypt with a key known to Crashplan, in which case you can reset your password and they can see your data. That seems like a reasonable trade-off to me, where different users will make different choices.
Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by closeparen on Sunday April 08, 2018 @04:31PM (#16788183)
Crashplan still works fine, you just have to get the business-branded version.