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Re:Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier by Someone1234 on Friday April 06, 2018 @01:03PM (#16774902)
Subaru's system is simply fantastic and you can tell they thought a lot about the "human condition" (human weaknesses) while designing it.

Lame keep assist is very subtle, I describe it like wind blowing on the side of the car. You can trivially over-power it and it will beep if you exit the lane (without blinker on) with or without lane keep assist active.

The whole package of safety features is wonderful and impressive for something starting at around $22K.

Re:Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier by singingboyo on Friday April 06, 2018 @01:35PM (#16775279)
I drive a Nissan myself, but from the sounds of it it's about the same. LDW (just warning in my case), FEB + pedestrian/moving object detection, blind spot detection, intelligent/adaptive cruise control. (There's also a lane keeping system option called ProPilot, but I skipped out on that - I don't think I'd trust it in the regular rain anyway)

Anyway, my point is these things are common now, and while getting the full package might cost a premium, the more important parts (like FEB) are certainly becoming fairly standard.

Re:Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier by antongribok on Friday April 06, 2018 @03:30PM (#16776590)
From what I understand, Subaru develops their own. They are the only ones where there are two cameras in the front that both see in color.

We have a 2017 Subaru with all of these and it's really excellent.

Re:Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier by LeoPanthera on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:56PM (#16778204)
I have ProPilot. It's pretty great. In heavy rain it shuts itself off and tells you that it is unavailable in bad weather.
Re:Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier by jijojv on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:49PM (#16778775)
That's great news. ProPilot sounds ideal for dealing with daily stop and go commute without the cost and risk of Tesla