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Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by travem on Thursday April 05, 2018 @03:58PM (#16768353)
> I'm also reminded by a RMS writing (I think it was letter of some sort) campaigning that denying computer lab users root access was oppressive.

There's a reference that may be related to this in the book "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution" that talks about how Stallman despised passwords and worked to promote more open access to the systems.

https://imgur.com/a/SZuNc

Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by ams6110 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:43PM (#16770296)
Back in the 1980s everyone had root access in the Minix lab at school. It was kind of necessary to do the assignments for operating systems class.
Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by mandelbrotwurst on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:43PM (#16770073)
Hmm... I am slightly surprised by this.. can anyone reconcile this with his stance on privacy / surveillance?
Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by cyphar on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:54AM (#16772098)
At the time, computers were not something everyone used in their daily lives. They were something that was shared. In that context, an administrator denying users of the computer access to pretty important functionality (imagine you couldn't run a debugger on your laptop, or couldn't get root) is anti-user behaviour. Passwords were (at the time) a way to restrict users from being able to access the machine without the administrators permission (since an administrator could remove your login entry -- even if you were physically present at the computer you couldn't do anything).

RMS has said multiple times that technology doesn't change our values, because our values are far too ingrained in order to be changed as something as trivial technology. But different technologies change the outcomes that we judge using our values. The proliferation of the internet and data sharing changes whether or not passwords are a good thing (since they are now used to protect user data from other people, rather than block users from accessing a system they should have the rights to access).

Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by 411mrc on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:08PM (#16770171)
Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by gcb0 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @11:41PM (#16770723)
2047? I wish. thanks to apple and google everyone have a computer they can't have the root password today!
Re:Patch runs ed, and ed can run anything by drdaeman on Friday April 06, 2018 @04:26AM (#16771796)
World's ungrateful. Apple made root password just blank in High Sierra, and everyone started to scream about a terrible security bug ;)