Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write
by thewellofjake on Thursday April 05, 2018 @10:55AM
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In the words of Benjamin Disraeli
"Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the right honorable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon"
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Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write
by hfdgiutdryg on Thursday April 05, 2018 @01:34PM
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How is that any different from saying, "while [black person]'s ancestors were throwing spears at each other, mine were respectable businessmen"?
It's not. It's maybe even worse than racist, because most of Disraeli's ancestors probably weren't even members Solomon's kingdom, they likely were mostly Europeans who converted and then adopted the ancestry.
Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write
by dullgiulio on Thursday April 05, 2018 @01:43PM
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Because the person who says that is part of the oppressed minority, not the other way around.
Why is that relevant to if the statement is racist? Yes there is a difference between kicking someone when they're down and kicking while down, but it is still kicking.
Disraeli said that in the quarrel as a response to O'Connell who've referred to Disraeli's Jewish ancestry in disparaging terms.
Put things in context, mate.
Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write
by quadrangle on Thursday April 05, 2018 @02:05PM
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Today this follow's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
And in case anyone hasn't heard: There's reasons pride has been considered a sin. There's nothing redeeming about the emotion of pride. You can have pride in your belief about your ancestors or pride in your accomplishments. Either way, pride is not doing anything positive. There are healthier ways to feel positive about things, and pride can go the hell away, period.