Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by wyoh on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:11PM
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Freer markets means less poverty though.
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Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by makotech222 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:20PM
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Haha, do they?
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by Latteland on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:45PM
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I think the question is how do you define free? Free for powerful to do anything they want? Free subject to govt control? The tension is between those points.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by skookumchuck on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:57PM
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The term is "free markets" which have a reasonably agreed upon definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by lulmerchant on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:39PM
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Absolutely, nothing has brought a greater level of prosperity and equality to the world than free market capitalism. This is simply an empirical fact. Just like it is an empirical fact that every socialist nation in history has created huge levels of poverty and inequality.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by Avshalom on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @07:10PM
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I feel like the fall of the British Empire and subsequent reversion to the mean is probably responsible for most of that prosperity.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by lulmerchant on Thursday April 05, 2018 @02:43AM
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The revision to what mean? The pre-British empire mean? Because pre-British empire wasn’t exactly a prosperous period.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by makotech222 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @06:32PM
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Hey, remember when the USSR started and they eliminated homelessness within 10 years. And also, were the first to space. In addition, had citizens that were better fed than the US, had more doctors per capita. And this is just from State Capitalism, not Socialism.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?
by lulmerchant on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @07:26PM
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No I don’t, because that never happened. I do remember millions of soviet citizens dying from famine though, and millions more dying from state sponsored killing. I don’t remember any famines taking place in developed free markets during that period. However, I have a pretty clear memory of the two class system that developed in all of the socialist nations that existed in the 20th century. One of the starving poor, and another of the rich oligarchs.