Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by emodendroket on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @10:36AM
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Migrating off of AWS is a difficult, drawn-out process which can take months, if you've got a lot of stuff there or are using a lot of AWS-specific features. That's part of why I chose that example. A lot of businesses a lot of people here work for would be in quite difficult straits if that happened.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by fixermark on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @10:56AM
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... but the fact remains: AWS is a service provided by a private corporation, not the government. There's no requirement or mandate in criminal law that it exist or continue to function. It could be dropped without warning at any time, and the only recourse customers would have is whatever contracts provide for them. This isn't something Amazon would do, because "Leaving millions of dollars of revenue on the table" isn't in their best interest. But if it ever becomes in their best interest? Nothing but civil contracts stopping them.
Most of society actually works like this, and we somehow manage to muddle through without shooting each other most of the time.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by emodendroket on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:00AM
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Well, again, I'm not advocating murder. But cris de coueur about changes to services like AWS or the App Store get plenty of upvotes and attention here, while the attitude toward people trying to make a living off of YouTube is different. Why?
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by jacquesm on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @10:39AM
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> if you've got a lot of stuff there or are using a lot of AWS-specific features.
If you allow yourself to be locked in to your hosting provider you are doing it wrong.
AWS is very clever about this but it is still your decision on whether or not you allow yourself to be suckered in. I point this out with some regularity to the companies I look at.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by rectang on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @10:54AM
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The courts are for rich people. Suing a major corporation is all but hopeless.
Practically, when you have a business dispute with a major corporation, your only option is to give up.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by jacquesm on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @10:58AM
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I've sued several very large corporations over the last 30 years and have to this date come out the winner in each and every case. Yes it cost some money but the pay-off was substantially higher than the money invested in the court case. And no, we were not rich by any definition.
In Europe the courts are still accessible for companies that do not have millions of $.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by emodendroket on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:01AM
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This story doesn't take place in Europe.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by jacquesm on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:20AM
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It couldn't take place in Europe.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by emodendroket on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:53AM
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I know little about European courts, so I'll just take you at your word. I'm not sure how this observation is relevant to the discussion.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by jacquesm on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @12:00PM
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Most of Europe has reasonably strict gun laws and it would be hard to get a gun in the first place.
Re:Suspect in YouTube Shooting Angry That Her Videos Had Bee...
by emodendroket on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @12:10PM
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Again, it seems like a non sequitur, if the discussion is about YouTube monetization policies.
Business disputes are as old as businesses and we have ways to resolve those disputes: the courts.
And be sure to read the fine print of any service or company that you are going to do business with if your business will be dependent on that other party. Avoid such dependencies as much as possible.
So yes, signing up with AWS is a calculated risk. You should know the possible downsides of that decision, and you should be aware of your position, rights and obligations as well as the terms of service.