Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ

Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by galieos_ghost on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:03PM (#16750242)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_Uni...

Midwest states have lower gun homicide rates than the many European countries despite having the highest gun ownership rates in the US.

The mass shootings that get media attention are a drop in the bucket compared to daily inner city gang violence that jacks up US gun stats. And taking guns from law abiding citizens isn't going to stop gangs from shooting each other.

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by grizzles on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:28PM (#16750417)

The mean average of the countries in Table 4 have a per capita gun homicide rate of 0.208

(0.2 + 0.2 + 0.3 + 0.5 + 0.1 + 0.2 + 0.3 + 0.2 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.4 + 0.3 + 0.0 + 0.2 + 0.2 + 0.0 + 0.5 + 0.0 + 0.5 + 0.2 + 0.1 + 0.2 + 0.0) / 23 = 0.208

There is not a single U.S. state midwestern or otherwise that has a lower per capita gun homicide rate than that average. The two lowest are Vermont (0.3) and New Hampshire (0.4), neither of which are in the midwest. The closest midwestern state is North Dakota at (0.6) The data also shows there are plenty of midwestern states with per capita gun homicide rates well above 1. Your claim is incorrect.

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by burfog on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @01:11AM (#16752137)

You should be comparing per-capita total homicide rate, not per-capita gun homicide rate. Having people die differently is not typically considered an improvement! Indeed, it would often be worse, since a shooting is less awful than many alternative ways to die.

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by koide on Saturday April 07, 2018 @11:13AM (#16781071)

Not all homicides are premeditated. So it's not always gun or something worse, sometimes it's gun or be alive. Also, that gun is the better death is again not a certainty.

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by megaman22 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:26PM (#16751628)

New Hampshire and Vermont, concindentally, have demographics most similar to the highly touted safe European countries.

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by moosehawk on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:26PM (#16750405)

The midwest state with the lowest gun homicide rate (North Dakota with 0.6 gun homicides per 100,000 people) isn't even less than the European country with the highest rate of gun homicides (Portugal with 0.5 gun homicides per 100,000 people).

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by refurb on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:21PM (#16751062)

Meh... his thesis still holds. Gun control is obvious not the driver of a lower gun homocide rate.

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by liberte82 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:25PM (#16750401)

Why don't you just say "black people are the problem" and stop beating around the bush?

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by nkurz on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:24PM (#16751373)

Most likely he doesn't say this because he doesn't believe this. The obvious interpretation is that he believes that some US cities have a serious problem with violent gangs. Why would you want to assume that "inner city gang violence" is code for "black people"?

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Re:Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ by liberte82 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:45AM (#16755810)

Because it is. We can kid ourselves all we like, but we all know this is where it is going. It takes just a brief detour to 4chan to know where people’s minds are at and where people’s theories are headed. It’s been a slippery slope toward explicit racism ever since Trump came on the scene and we can keep sliding down the slope or we can acknowledge it.

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