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Re:Ask HN: Why does P2P encrypted messaging still suck? by smehtaca on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:23AM (#16745515)
I find Wire(wire.com) to be well designed and usable, especially their mac client. Only issue I have with Wire is having no anonymous sign up and having to rely on a central server to add contacts but the former can be worked around by using a temporary email.

I take issue with having to provide a cell phone number for Signal. I just hope Tox clients get more polished and more usable as every client I've used except toxic has been terribly buggy.

Re:Ask HN: Why does P2P encrypted messaging still suck? by grumdan on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:41PM (#16751713)
In addition, their server-side code is open-source and they claimed that federation support is something they are considering to add: https://github.com/wireapp/wire/issues/160

Overall, I'm also not a big fan of Signal's hostility to federated protocols (https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/), so I'm more optimistic about Wire in the long run.

Re:Ask HN: Why does P2P encrypted messaging still suck? by kiliankoe on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @12:34AM (#16751957)
Just want to add onto this that pretty much everything Wire makes is open source. The backend (written in Haskell no less, which continues to amaze me), the desktop app and the mobile apps.