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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by agumonkey on Sunday April 01, 2018 @08:16AM (#16727877)
I worried that PHP would go too much 'pro' when they started consolidating things. But I thought they wouldn't reach JavaEE levels of fluff.. since most PHPers were more into pragmatics than hyperstructure.

I pity them

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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by eitland on Sunday April 01, 2018 @09:17AM (#16728118)
Modern Java EE is actually really simple and lightweight. (My background is mostly php, later Java, all the time with some other languages like python w/flask, javascript etc in between.)
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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by agumonkey on Sunday April 01, 2018 @10:49AM (#16728552)
I should have said J2EE sorry
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