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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by badestrand on Sunday April 01, 2018 @12:50AM (#16726782)
> how many interesting new ideas will you learn from studying PHP, versus [...] languages such as Javascript/Node

This is on point! Programming PHP is not about diving deep into interesting language constructs or creating beautifully structured software - PHP is about getting things done, about starting hurdle-free and progressing rapidly. It goes against some "good development practices" but it works, see for example the single-file website remoteok.io from Pieter Levels: https://twitter.com/levelsio/status/938707166508154880

Re:Modern PHP without a framework by Annatar on Sunday April 01, 2018 @03:41AM (#16727225)
Love it. Back to the roots - one file, load it up in the editor, if one needs to debug something, just search for it. Yep. This is how it should be: easy to debug.