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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by wvenable on Saturday March 31, 2018 @09:47PM (#16726254)
...or C# or anything else. I programmed in PHP for many years and I agree. I mean there are good reasons for maybe not using Java but it's hard to imagine a good excuse to start PHP these days if you don't already know PHP.

On the other hand, things in PHP-land are improving at such a rapid pace (but without the churn of JavaScript) that if you are a PHP developer there isn't much reason to switch to something different but similar.

Re:Modern PHP without a framework by whamlastxmas on Sunday April 01, 2018 @12:22AM (#16726707)
Higher quality development jobs tend to use things other than PHP. I say this as a PHP developer. So there's at least that reason to get away from it.
Re:Modern PHP without a framework by RhodesianHunter on Sunday April 01, 2018 @09:32AM (#16728171)
Pretty much this. Switching from PHP to Java resulted in dramatic salary increases for me.
Re:Modern PHP without a framework by whamlastxmas on Sunday April 01, 2018 @03:58PM (#16730104)
What was that transition like for you? I'd like to get away from web development because I'm bored out of my mind with the front end aspect.