Modern PHP without a framework

Re:Modern PHP without a framework by tyingq on Saturday March 31, 2018 @09:33PM (#16726201)

Java is still burdened with a lot of this.that.this.that.whatever(something)

I don't know that I've ever encountered something like:

  RequestProcessorFactoryFactory.RequestProcessorFactory.getRequestProcessor(XmlRpcRequest)

In any other language. And that's not the most egregious example. It's quite common.

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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by cutler on Sunday April 01, 2018 @01:21AM (#16726865)

Have a look at Zend's SDK. It's full of such nonsense. Symfony also tries very hard to look like Java, complete with verbose naming and files paths.

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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by tyingq on Sunday April 01, 2018 @02:00AM (#16726979)

Maybe. I avoid stuff like that. See https://www.slimframework.com for example.

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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by davidjnelson on Sunday April 01, 2018 @07:44PM (#16731207)

Seems more like a dig on inheritance and the resultant code than java as a language.

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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by tyingq on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:53AM (#16761877)

Well, two layers of factory classes, one calling the other, plus a big xml blob is pretty Java specific. I'm open to to common counter examples in some other language.

There's inheritance, and there's overindulgence.

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Re:Modern PHP without a framework by davidjnelson on Saturday April 07, 2018 @01:57PM (#16781826)

Interface based polymorphism is pretty useful. Been thinking more functionally lately, and can’t remember needing it. Parametric polymorphism ( aka generics ) are still useful for the immutable state graph.

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