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Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by sova on Saturday March 31, 2018 @09:23PM (#16726163)
That's like asking why there was an aristocratic court in Heian Japan when their skills in prosody and haiku were clearly not viable as jobs. I don't think every degree has to land a job, and education in itself must be a strong goal for our nation, not just economic feasibility. Don't be ruled by the Almighty Dollar.
Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by zanny on Saturday March 31, 2018 @10:18PM (#16726357)
> education in itself must be a strong goal for our nation

Too bad it isn't. Education is being used as a yardstick to isolate the poor from the economy. Don't have a BS? Guess you aren't qualified to work at McDonalds.

And for those that do get those degrees, like you said, haikus aren't a viable job. For all the history and literature majors of the world a lot of them were spoon fed what their parents thought - "get a degree, any degree, and you are ahead in the world" just to find out that "ahead" didn't mean comfortable living. It just meant you had higher priority for the limited pie of work than those who didn't have that generic piece of paper.

If you want people not to be ruled by the dollar, change society so your ability to be safe and secure in your day to day survival isn't bound so tightly to the pursuit and amassment of said dollar.

Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by sova on Sunday April 01, 2018 @04:11AM (#16727303)
Decoupling Safety and Security from the Almighty Dollar is a noble pursuit.
Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by jjeaff on Saturday March 31, 2018 @10:01PM (#16726298)
I agree, but if we are going to agree to not be ruled by the almighty dollar, we have to stop giving so many almighty dollars to universities for degrees that will produce no almighty dollars after graduation.

Let people study fine arts with a minor in Russian literature. But we shouldn't subsidize huge student loans so they can get those degrees.

Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by Symbiote on Sunday April 01, 2018 @05:03PM (#16730421)
> “The arts are essen­tial to any com­plete national life. The State owes it to itself to sus­tain and encour­age them…. Ill fares the race which fails to salute the arts with the rev­er­ence and delight which are their due.” -- Churchill, 1938

We could debate how much subsidy should be allocated for arts vs. science, but I'd prefer that the wealthiest countries didn't restrict arts. They/we can afford it.

Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by jjeaff on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:09PM (#16738096)
The arts won't go away if the US stops subsidizing it. Universities will just charge less for it.
Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by almostApatriot1 on Saturday March 31, 2018 @10:58PM (#16726448)
Sure, but staying in school until your 30's is a bit ridiculous. Only so many people can do it. Think about it. You're living off of somebody else's dime until almost 40.
Re:Time to talk about why so many postgrads have poor mental... by cge on Sunday April 01, 2018 @02:52AM (#16727104)
If you are actually trying for academia (and are considered as have a good chance of doing so), rather than being in academic wrappings around professional education, you should have consistent TA/RA/fellowships, and while it can be argued that, in living off research funding, you're living off someone else's dime, aren't you likely going to be living off that same dime the rest of your life?