News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Antisemitism matters: Jews are the canary in the coalmine by Mizza on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:21PM (#16724992)
"Let that sink in" isn't an argument, and it especially isn't an argument that justifies apartheid.

Nobody in Europe is saying Israel shouldn't exist, just that it should be held to modern western moral standards and accountability with regards to human rights.

Re:Antisemitism matters: Jews are the canary in the coalmine by meri_dian on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:33PM (#16725035)
Maybe if you were surrounded by people who want to kill you and refuse to accept your legitimacy as a nation, and are subject to constant violence and harassment you would understand why the Israelis are a bit defensive.
Re:Antisemitism matters: Jews are the canary in the coalmine by portofcall on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:27PM (#16725013)
By those modern standards, they’re already doing better than the US and UK for example. They didn’t invade Afghanistan and Iraq, they didn’t destabilize Libya, and they don’t have a secret program of drone killings all over the world.

Lose the apartheid nonsense too, you’re insulting the Israelis, and the South Africans who suffered under the real deal.

Re:Antisemitism matters: Jews are the canary in the coalmine by Mizza on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:49PM (#16725114)
"I know you are, but what I am I" doesn't excuse Israel for its crimes. The US isn't excused either - that's the whole point I'm making: no special treatment.

And yes, Israel does have a drone assassination program - that's where the US got the idea for theirs. The US Hunter and Pioneer UAV systems are direct derivatives of Israeli models, etc.

Re:Antisemitism matters: Jews are the canary in the coalmine by portofcall on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:56PM (#16725136)
...just that it should be held to modern western moral standards and accountability with regards to human rights..

You remember posting that, right?

Israel does have a drone assassination program - that's where the US got the idea for theirs. The US Hunter and Pioneer UAV systems are direct derivatives of Israeli models, etc.

Citations for that?

Re:Antisemitism matters: Jews are the canary in the coalmine by Mizza on Saturday March 31, 2018 @05:03PM (#16725163)