For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped

Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by cup-of-tea on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:18PM (#16724408)

I'm British and this sounds unbelievable. How "shitty" and "old" are we talking, though? I also didn't spend much on my car (2005 model, bought outright after saving for roughly two months) but it doesn't look anywhere near out of place on the road here.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by bri3d on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:53PM (#16724557)

We don't have the MOT in the US so much stronger outliers are still found on the road.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by cup-of-tea on Sunday April 01, 2018 @04:29AM (#16727343)

We've also had several government scrappage schemes in the UK so you pretty much don't see anything older than 15 years on the road. In addition our cars rust more due to weather and salt used on the road.

The first thing I noticed when I went to South Africa was the older cars on the road. Some cars that I remember from my childhood but had completely forgotten about until that point. I never realised the turnover in the UK was so high until I came back.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by ExcelSaga on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:02PM (#16724906)

You have the yearly state inspection though right? At least, last I lived there you did.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by tyingq on Saturday March 31, 2018 @05:20PM (#16725232)

We do, but outside of California, it's a cakewalk. Mostly checks for functional brake lights, turn signals, wipers, etc. And, again, outside of California, some minimal emissions tests you'll pass unless your car is seriously ailing.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by jack_h on Saturday March 31, 2018 @05:50PM (#16725355)

Not exactly. This is highly dependent upon not only state but county as well. The type of vehicle and its age and even things like a vehicle with collectors plates can factor into emissions and testing requirements.

As an example my sister lives in a county in Colorado that doesn't do emissions testing. I bought a car - 2001 Subaru Legacy - from her several years ago and had to pass emissions as I do live in a county that requires it. It failed spectacularly. The car was not 'seriously ailing' either. The forward O2 sensor needed to be replaced and then it passed just fine.

Granted from what I hear California has pretty strict emissions requirements, but it's not necessarily a cake walk outside of California either, although sometimes it is. It's highly variable.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by tyingq on Saturday March 31, 2018 @06:11PM (#16725431)

I'm comparing relative to UK MOT or Germany's TÜV when I say "cakewalk".

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by Gibbon1 on Saturday March 31, 2018 @06:09PM (#16725423)

And inside of California there are no vehicle inspections except for a smog check every two years.

Cops will pull you over if your brake/head lights are out.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by lancepioch on Saturday March 31, 2018 @07:18PM (#16725683)

Some states have it, some don't.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by tyingq on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:19PM (#16724411)

90's era mid size cars for the most part.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by candiodari on Sunday April 01, 2018 @12:44AM (#16726762)

As someone who travels into Britain on a regular basis and interacting with British police and customs officers:

You are delusional if you think your police force isn't racist. ESPECIALLY the customs officers, but also regular police.

I was watching some mental health videos online just last weekend, and I watched some from britain. And ... firstly minorities and the very poor are obviously overrepresented in these "groups". Second the "patients" are terrified of these mental health professionals. Utterly terrified. Thirdly, there is a clear difference in reaction patterns between white and black patients, and between muslim and non-muslim ones.

So just stop. Your police, and many other parts of the British state is explicitly attacking these people, on racist motives.

Just stop claiming otherwise. This is not incredible, this is normal.

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Re:For Black Motorists, a Never-Ending Fear of Being Stopped by cup-of-tea on Sunday April 01, 2018 @04:30AM (#16727345)

I was actually talking about profiling based on driving an older car and in fact just getting randomly pulled over on the road in any circumstances.

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