Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by jonhendry18 on Saturday March 31, 2018 @12:37AM
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Speaking of insurance, but not self-insurance:
I'm guessing that if I buy a Tesla with autopilot, I'm not going to find any insurers who will charge me discounted rates that reflect autopilot being 10x safer.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by 1123581321 on Friday March 30, 2018 @10:50PM
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It doesn't seem like pulling to the right would be safe in this situation. I think that automatically slowing down would be, though. Even slowing at a rate similar to a human letting their foot off the gas (to avoid unexpected behavior) would reduce the chance of fatality in a crash.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by andrewprock on Friday March 30, 2018 @11:01PM
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People pull over to the shoulder safely everyday. If an autopilot car cannot do this, it should not be on the road.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by 1123581321 on Friday March 30, 2018 @11:20PM
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People do not pull over to the shoulder when they are between lanes in (presumably) busy traffic, which is where you have to be to hit a median.
I am not sure if Tesla's current system, which is still just cruise control with steering, should ever be changing lanes unprompted. I don't have a Tesla but I would not want my car's cruise control to do that right now. I do think that pulling over in safe conditions is something that a self-driving system needs to be able to do at some point on the path to full autonomy.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by jonhendry18 on Saturday March 31, 2018 @12:39AM
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In this situation I think the lane to the right is not the shoulder. So in a situation where there are only seconds to respond to an obstacle, there might be cars blocking the Tesla on the right.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by greglindahl on Saturday March 31, 2018 @12:20AM
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No one shipping a Level 2 system provides insurance for it. The definition of Level 2 is that the driver has responsibility.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by eanzenberg on Saturday March 31, 2018 @12:50AM
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That's very troubling. If you saw the Uber crash cam on the driver it's obvious that the "responsible drivers" are completely non-responsive, on their phones, half asleep. A system that lulls the driver into a false sense of security does NOT pass responsibility to said driver.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident
by URSpider94 on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:38AM
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Uber is testing a Level 4-5 system, those systems will need to be insured since they will not have a driver in the car.
If the autopilot does not think it is capable of driving safely, it should pull over to the shoulder of the road, not beep and flash.