Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by lifeformed on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:45PM
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Overpopulation is just the symptom of a problem. It will cease to be an issue if living standards increase around the world.
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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by r00fus on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:48PM
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I think this is the crux of the issue.
Many folks pine for yesterday, but honestly until/unless we all embrace (and stop demonizing) birth control and increase the meaningfulness of lives worldwide, there will continue to be massive ecological damage just from people, leave alone industry.
Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by IshKebab on Friday March 30, 2018 @02:10PM
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You have that backwards. Pretty much everything else is a symptom of overpopulation, which is the root problem.
No matter how green and efficient we are, if the population keeps growing it won't really matter.
Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by lifeformed on Friday March 30, 2018 @03:35PM
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But the population doesn't grow much where standards of living are high. People have lots of kids in poor areas because their survival rates are relatively low, and need them for labor. As conditions improve, birth rates lower.
Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by mathgladiator on Friday March 30, 2018 @04:31PM
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The argument is that when people have better living conditions, they have less babies. Namely, babies will survive so two people will only have one child.
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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by lifeformed on Friday March 30, 2018 @03:40PM
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But living conditions have drastically improved over recent decades for 90% of the population. What makes you think things have peaked now?
Also, capitalism would greatly benefit from improved economic conditions around the world.
Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by rory096 on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:56PM
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>You really think you can improve the living standards for 90%+ of the world population?
Yes? Why would that not be possible?
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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)
by rory096 on Friday March 30, 2018 @03:51PM
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If you're referring to the 2016 ILO report[0][1], that was a short-term trend partially attributable to the refugee influx. Overall, global poverty has been on a steep downward trend for decades.
[0] http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---dgreports/---dcom...
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/19/poverty-increasing-in-develo...