61% of “Entry-Level” Jobs Require 3+ Years of Experience

Re:61% of “Entry-Level” Jobs Require 3+ Years of Experience by icebraining on Thursday March 29, 2018 @03:56AM (#16705323)

I think the problem is that she falls in the same error as the companies she's criticizing - she conflates passion with external signals like "spending a lot of time on personal projects". At first she uses quotes around "passionate", which seems to distinguish the two, but then she fully conflates them. Inevitably, she will rile up those of us who were passioned about tech despite not having the means to dedicate ourselves to it.

Which is a shame, because her point that filtering candidates based on their dedication of personal time to tech is discriminatory is valid.

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Re:61% of “Entry-Level” Jobs Require 3+ Years of Experience by michaelt on Thursday March 29, 2018 @05:31AM (#16705681)

  she conflates passion with external signals like
  "spending a lot of time on personal projects"

Job interviewers fear being mislead by people telling them what they want to hear, so they will often look for provable actions and demonstrable knowledge, rather than claims.

If someone tells me they're passionate about embedded electronics, I'll ask what they've worked with - arduino? raspberry pi? esp8266? atmel? pic? mbed? - and what they've done with it.

If they haven't used any of them, or they've barely used them, are they really passionate?

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Re:61% of “Entry-Level” Jobs Require 3+ Years of Experience by icebraining on Thursday March 29, 2018 @05:59AM (#16705803)

Sure, but that's where her criticism is valid - there are many reasons why a person might not be able to fulfill their passion, and some groups are disproportionately affected by that filter.

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