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Re:Uber will not re-apply for self-driving car permit in Cal... by vidarh on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @03:28AM (#16696073)
> This assumes that self-driving cars will be safer. I think this is an unrealistic idea.

I've seen this suggested a few times, and it makes me wonder if this is caused by religious beliefs or general pessimism.

The reason is that the only way it is an unrealistic idea is if we assume that human intelligence can not possibly be matched by a machine and/or if we assume that the progress towards genera AI will be so slow that we for the intents and purposes of the debate will take very long to match it.

The only thing that will stop us from eventually matching human intelligence with machines is if there is some super-natural soul necessary to match it. Even then, for that to stop us, said soul would need to be a necessary condition to make self-driving cars safer than human, which sounds even more implausible to me, given the many advantages self-driving cars can obtain:

Additional views of the road. Benefiting from accumulated knowledge from billions of hours of driving. Potentially wireless information exchange with the other automated cars in the vicinity (can't see through the fog very well? well, maybe the 10 cars around you can fill in blanks).

I think it's a totally unrealistic idea that self-driving cars won't get to a safety level where human drivers will be outlawed on public roads.

Re:Uber will not re-apply for self-driving car permit in Cal... by nicky0 on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @03:43AM (#16696123)
You completely missed the meat of the comment which was about how cars get old, worn out and damaged over time, and aren't always well maintained, and that this will apply to self-drivers too and affect their safety.
Re:Uber will not re-apply for self-driving car permit in Cal... by vidarh on Thursday March 29, 2018 @09:56AM (#16707064)
No, I didn't. There's no reasons we can't build self driving systems that aren't sufficiently hardened in terms of hardware that they will outlast the care and/or with sufficient self-diagnostic ability to refuse to drive if they are degraded in any way.
Re:Uber will not re-apply for self-driving car permit in Cal... by nicky0 on Friday March 30, 2018 @03:23PM (#16719033)
Well that's alright then.