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Re:Oracle Wins Revival of Billion-Dollar Case Against Google by treis on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @12:35PM (#16690178)
The Java API is hundreds of classes and thousands of methods. It is far beyond something as simple as the height of a door.
Re:Oracle Wins Revival of Billion-Dollar Case Against Google by djsumdog on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @12:43PM (#16690281)
I don't see how the size of the spec has anything to do with it. It could be the standard height of doors or the standard interface/protocol between every sensor and smart component in a smart home.

What if I create my own smart home server that can be a drop in replacement for some commercial product using just what I've gather from their public API? Is that infringement, when the underlying implementation is entirely my own?

Re:Oracle Wins Revival of Billion-Dollar Case Against Google by treis on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @12:59PM (#16690459)
You can't copyright trivial work so the size of the spec matters.

It depends on how you create your server. If you go to their website, look at their API, and start typing identical code then that's not ok. It's pretty clearly copying. If you do black box testing and then write your own API that's fine. It's clearly not copying but a new original work.

Re:Oracle Wins Revival of Billion-Dollar Case Against Google by servilio on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:34PM (#16690852)
And what criteria should be used to tell when an API is complex enough to be copyright-able?
Re:Oracle Wins Revival of Billion-Dollar Case Against Google by icebraining on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:40PM (#16692531)
Generally, anything can be copyrighted as long as it's sufficiently original. The phrase “I have abandoned my search for truth and am now looking for a good fantasy”, for example, is under copyright by Ashleigh Brilliant, who own a case against a t-shirt manufacturer using it.