Re:"shi1 shi4 shi2 shi1 shi3" - a Chinese tongue twister
by praptak on Tuesday September 07, 2010 @08:09AM
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True, it is also good to have an idea which tone means what. As far as I know it's: high-level, raising, falling-and-then-raising and falling (the shape of the dashes over i gives the hint) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_phonology#Tones
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Re:"shi1 shi4 shi2 shi1 shi3" - a Chinese tongue twister
by ugh on Tuesday September 07, 2010 @08:23AM
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That is awesome! Illustrative diacritics, who would have thought? I still would love to hear the sentence spoken.
Re:"shi1 shi4 shi2 shi1 shi3" - a Chinese tongue twister
by nivekastoreth on Tuesday September 07, 2010 @11:37AM
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http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/rsc/audio/voice_pinyin_cl/shi1.... (shī)
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/rsc/audio/voice_pinyin_cl/shi2.... (shí)
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/rsc/audio/voice_pinyin_cl/shi3.... (shǐ)
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/rsc/audio/voice_pinyin_cl/shi4.... (shì)
For the falling-then-raising (shǐ) changing the "shi3" to "chi3" in the URL gives a better idea, I think, for what the inflection sounds like.
Re:"shi1 shi4 shi2 shi1 shi3" - a Chinese tongue twister
by nwomack on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @12:54AM
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Agree on the last point -- at least, for Taiwan. In fact, those idealized graphs caused me a bit of a headache early on. Native mandarin speakers in Taiwan tend to drop the end of the 3rd tone, so it falls slowly then holds at the bottom for a minute, then rises slightly or even just cuts off.