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Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by mehrdadn on Sunday March 25, 2018 @09:01PM (#16675744)
> I'm not sure if Google even has an internal red team, last time I talked with someone there they didn't (was 18 months ago though).

2012: Google staffs up ‘Red Team’

And this was literally just a Google away: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/08/24/google-red-team-...

Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by kerng on Sunday March 25, 2018 @09:04PM (#16675754)
Red team is an overloaded term: "Analyze software and services from a privacy perspective, ensuring they are in line with Google's stated privacy policies, practices, and the expectations of our users." Doesn't sound like adversary simulation to me.
Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by kyrra on Sunday March 25, 2018 @09:08PM (#16675777)
https://careers.google.com/jobs#!t=jo&jid=/google/security-e...

The job even lists insider threat as part of their responsibility.

Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by kerng on Sunday March 25, 2018 @09:29PM (#16675879)
Yeah, still not the same as actually performing breaches themselves to see how long it takes to compromise, and if they get detected and how long it takes to remediate and evict the adversary. I should have been a bit clearer with what I meant initially.
Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by sulam on Sunday March 25, 2018 @10:26PM (#16676138)
How do you know there isn’t a team at Google doing this? It’s standard practice at companies of even middling size and Google is so large your friend might just be unaware of it.
Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by kerng on Sunday March 25, 2018 @10:46PM (#16676218)
A Google security manager told me at a conference when chatting about this in 2016. They were thinking of staffing a breach team, but did not have one then.
Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by mehrdadn on Monday March 26, 2018 @03:02AM (#16677158)
I thought Project Zero tries to find vulnerabilities in Google stuff too?
Re:Zuckerberg Takes Steps to Calm Facebook Employees by kerng on Monday March 26, 2018 @03:52PM (#16681916)
Project Zero is different compared to performing end to end breaches. A breach team might use 0-days of Project Zero to actually compromise Google's internal assets to see if their defenders can detect an adversary. FB has such a team and they gave public presentations (one was at RuxCon 2016) how they compromise for instance their domain controllers and stuff.