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Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by gkya on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:19PM (#16673553)
Compelled to use FB Messenger when WhatsApp is available? I don't think there are many people who have FB, but not WhatsApp.
Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by aianus on Sunday March 25, 2018 @03:48PM (#16674147)
You know the phone numbers of all of your FB contacts?

Getting someone's phone number has always felt like a much higher bar than their FB since you could harass them with calls, SMS, etc and it's more difficult to block. Plus there's an implicit sexual connotation if you ask a woman for her phone number that doesn't apply to Facebook or LinkedIn.

I really don't like how WhatsApp piggybacks on phone numbers and phone contacts but clearly I'm in a tiny minority given how successful they've become.

Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by gkya on Sunday March 25, 2018 @04:23PM (#16674367)
> You know the phone numbers of all of your FB contacts?

I don't have a Facebook account.

> Getting someone's phone number has always felt like a much higher bar than their FB since you could harass them with calls, SMS, etc and it's more difficult to block.

It's quite easy to block a number. If they'll go as far as to use a different phone to call you, then they could also use someone else's FB account too.

> Plus there's an implicit sexual connotation if you ask a woman for her phone number that doesn't apply to Facebook or LinkedIn.

That's probably something specific to your culture or a misconception on your part. I don't see how the two actions are different when in the same context, except friending someone on FB means you let them not only try communicate you, but observe a certain period of your past and see pictures/videos/posts of yours. I can't see how that's not more demanding in terms of privacy than asking for someone's phone number.

I'd ideally go for an e-mail address instead of both of them, but well...

Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by bmarquez on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:31PM (#16673632)
I find WhatsApp is ubiquitous among my international friends, but my American friends who joined Facebook in college don't have it. Anecdotal data, of course.
Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by scottmf on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:21PM (#16673564)
Facebook owns WhatsApp.
Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by gkya on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:38PM (#16673686)
Certainly but WhatsApp is rather privacy-friendly.
Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by zwily on Sunday March 25, 2018 @05:22PM (#16674670)
What makes you say this? How do you know what Facebook is doing with the whatsapp data?
Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by gkya on Sunday March 25, 2018 @06:05PM (#16674917)
If WhatsApp is not lying about end-to-end encryption, FB don't have the data.
Re:Tim Cook says Facebook's collection of user data 'shouldn... by scottmf on Monday March 26, 2018 @01:35AM (#16676846)
There’s plenty of useful data besides the content of messages.