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Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by ams6110 on Saturday March 24, 2018 @05:06PM (#16668940)
I don't have a problem with the illegal porn ban; people are actually being victimized there.

I do have a problem with the gun stuff. Even "how to" videos that result in somehting that's currently illegal. Information should not be banned, and it's a futile effort to try to do that. The internet is too big.

Any high school chemistry student learns enough to build a bomb. Should we ban chemistry videos? Ban learning about chemical oxidation?

But bottom line, it's Google's service and I guess they can do what they want with it.

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Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by JshWright on Saturday March 24, 2018 @05:32PM (#16669070)
CodysLab is another educational channel having significant issues with strikes.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by rocqua on Saturday March 24, 2018 @07:31PM (#16669666)
That is true, but it is less obvious of an example. I could see a very careful person actually taking issue with some of his videos. Less so with the other videos.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by chii on Saturday March 24, 2018 @09:53PM (#16670206)
what issues can be had with Cody'sLab videos? They are completely educational, and in the parts that are dangerous, he clearly warns of it, and also tells you how to do it safely.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by DanBC on Saturday March 24, 2018 @10:09PM (#16670260)
CodysLabs is an odd example. Some of the stuff is poorly set up. He's injured himself several times making videos, and it's only luck that he hasn't had a serious injury. He teaches poor habits and bad practice. But, even with all that, he is educational for people with the attention span to watch. He does a minimal amount of "blowing shit up", and even that tends to be small amounts of explosion with lots of explanation.

I think it's weird that Youtube would take that channel down because most people aren't going to have the patience to watch it, and they're not going to copy it.

Compare that to this fucking idiot, who has a huge and young audience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNgIWj8ZM0

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by amvalo on Sunday March 25, 2018 @01:23PM (#16673228)
Cody drank cyanide for fun -- twice. Definitely not a safety oriented channel
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by slig on Saturday March 24, 2018 @06:00PM (#16669247)
It's really a shame. These channels (+ Cody's) produce awesome content that I'm sure inspire a lot of kids and teens to study STEM.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by jotm on Saturday March 24, 2018 @08:11PM (#16669839)
Well, damn, here I thought UK ISP's denying access to drug-discussing forums is bad. So much information and education just taken away by idiots (or maybe it's on purpose).
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by AnthonyMouse on Saturday March 24, 2018 @07:00PM (#16669543)
> But bottom line, it's Google's service and I guess they can do what they want with it.

By the same token, everyone else can also do whatever they want. Including publicly criticizing Google for removing lawful information, advocating that everyone stop using their services until they change their policy, then using, promoting or creating competing services that don't censor, etc.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by chii on Saturday March 24, 2018 @09:55PM (#16670210)
> advocating that everyone stop using their services until they change their policy, then using, promoting or creating competing services that don't censor, etc.

except that due to youtube and google's near monopoly on consumers, none of this is going to happen. This is why google can choose to censor (or in fact, do whatever the fuck they want), because they know their customers (i mean products) don't have anywhere else to go to.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by AnthonyMouse on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:46AM (#16672675)
There is a fair argument that Google has market power in e.g. search advertising. If you want to buy search advertising from somebody else, good luck ever reaching as many people.

The idea that they have a monopoly in email or video hosting is ridiculous. They have a thousand competitors and it's easy for customers to switch.

They still have a huge slice of those markets for the same reason Microsoft used to have a huge slice of the browser market -- they're the default on the most popular OS (once Windows, now Android). But Mozilla et al took a huge chunk out of Microsoft's browser share after customers got sick of all of Microsoft's anti-user behavior.

Because people will stay with the defaults unless they have a reason to switch. But if you do give them a reason, like banning legitimate content they want to view and create, that's another story.

And the more people switch, the better the alternatives get and the easier it is for more people to join them.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by ryanwaggoner on Saturday March 24, 2018 @06:27PM (#16669380)
I don't have a problem with the illegal porn ban; people are actually being victimized there. ... Information should not be banned, and it's a futile effort to try to do that. The internet is too big.

If "information should not be banned" and it doesn't work anyway, why are you OK with banning illegal stuff?

Also, to point out the obvious, it's OK to not want something on your site.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by csomar on Saturday March 24, 2018 @05:56PM (#16669216)
> I don't have a problem with the illegal porn ban; people are actually being victimized there.

This is where you are wrong. It is either all or it is not. You can't draw the line. Either information can free flow through your router or it can't.

I can't really see it another way.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by austincheney on Saturday March 24, 2018 @06:44PM (#16669464)
Google isn't limiting the data flowing through your router. They are limiting content they are willing to store on their servers. Those two are worlds apart and Google can do whatever they choose within the boundaries defined by their terms of service.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by wcunning on Saturday March 24, 2018 @07:23PM (#16669628)
But that distinction makes Google no longer a DMCA safe harbor. Once you start censoring content not actively illegal, you are now liable for any copyright infringement on your site.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by icebraining on Saturday March 24, 2018 @07:46PM (#16669729)
The condition for safe harbor is not knowing that the content is infringing, not that you censor your content or not. YouTube has always censored content (e.g. porn).