Re:Amazon Has Considered Buying Some Toys ‘R’ Us Stores
by opmac on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @12:36PM
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I don't think you fully understand how this works. Bain doesn't get off the hook here with zero losses. In these bankruptcy situations, equity holds (Bain) usually get their equity stake wiped completely. If they had hundreds of millions/billions of dollars in equity, all of that is now gone. They will recover some of the money from the liquidation of assets however they will immediately use that to pay of their own debts. The debtors however get screwed even further... most if not all of them get absolutely nothing.
Re:Amazon Has Considered Buying Some Toys ‘R’ Us Stores
by s73v3r_ on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @12:54PM
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"Bain doesn't get off the hook here with zero losses."
They make the company pay them dividends while saddling the company with their debt.
"The debtors however get screwed even further... most if not all of them get absolutely nothing."
And yet, they keep lending to these vultures. I have no sympathy.
Re:Amazon Has Considered Buying Some Toys ‘R’ Us Stores
by opmac on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @05:25PM
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> They make the company pay them dividends while saddling the company with their debt.
Yes that is true. Is the sum of dividends over X years >= the amount of equity wiped out in a Chapter 7 liquidation? Impossible to say... the company is private.
> They make
They didn't make them do anything. They bought the company... they can do what they want as owners. That's just how this game works.
Re:Amazon Has Considered Buying Some Toys ‘R’ Us Stores
by s73v3r_ on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @07:15PM
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And that's not a good enough argument anymore. They did force this upon the company, and they are feeling absolutely none of the consequences of their decision.
Keep in mind, Toys R Us had some 20% of the online toy market. And without the debt hanging around their neck, they'd actually have funds to invest in competing.