> neither of us has the data, but id bet that whatever miles / fatalities metric is, the self driving cars are still in the lead right now

There's different estimates from different sources using slightly different methodology, but they are all in the neighborhood of road fatalities of 1 per 100 million miles traveled. [0]

Waymo claims to have reached 5 million miles in February [1], Uber (from other posts in this thread) is around 1 million miles; the whole self-driving industry is nowhere near 100 million, and has one fatality. So it's way worse, as of today, than human driving for fatalities.

Of course, it's also way too little data (on the self-driving side) to treat as meaningful in terms of prediciting the current hazard rather than simply measuring the outcomes to date.

[0] see, e.g., https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the...

[1] https://waymo.com/ontheroad/