Police Say Uber Is Likely Not at Fault for Self-Driving Car Fatality in Arizona

Re:Police Say Uber Is Likely Not at Fault for Self-Driving C... by noobermin on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @12:13AM (#16626011)

So I think you have a great analogy, and I generally like your perspective. The problem is that I think this accident clearly demonstrates that the suggestion that AV's would be safer than human drivers is now suspect. A post elsewhere compared the deaths per mile for human drivers to that of this pilots' and it's worse by orders of magnitude.[0]

That's my point. I 100% agree, if self-driving cars did make things better, than the safety aspect is a good thing.

I think the freeing up people's time is okay too but only if all of society has access to AV's. However, like many innovations of the past, advancements which are not accessible to all people just free up the time of some people while offsetting burdens onto others (ie., those who can't afford AV's). BUT, that is a separate issue.

[0] It is just one data point, but it's a bad sign to be so quick to kill a pedestrian so soon out of the gate.

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Re:Police Say Uber Is Likely Not at Fault for Self-Driving C... by manfredo on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @12:52AM (#16626140)

Worse by an order of magnitude is only the case if you exclusively measure fatalities - and as you point out there is exactly one data point and not enough miles logged to produce any meaningful conclusion. The data on non-fatal accidents for Waymo indicates that self-driving cars are an order of magnitude less likely to be at fault for an accident that human drivers: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-safe-are-self-drivi...

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