Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street

Re:Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street by danso on Monday March 19, 2018 @01:54PM (#16620985)

If the stats don't exist then what was your whole basis for making an argument? On what grounds do you have to argue that we shouldn't be pessimistic about the state of autonomous driving? That you pulled out the IIHS stats without apparently bothering to look up the number of reported self-driving miles driven seems to suggest that you assumed that the fatality rate was obviously skewed against human driving.

That's fine, we don't have to consider just fatal accidents:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/31/16956902/california-dmv-s...

> One result of the sharp increase in GM’s number of miles driven is a plethora of accidents. The auto giant’s autonomous cars were involved in 22 fender benders over the course of the reporting period (and two more in 2018). That’s one crash for every 5,985 miles of testing.

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Re:Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street by kerkeslager on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:02PM (#16621104)

> On what grounds do you have to argue that we shouldn't be pessimistic about the state of autonomous driving?

I didn't say that.

I'm not saying autonomous cars are safer, I'm saying that this accident doesn't prove autonomous cars are less safe.

> That you pulled out the IIHS stats without apparently bothering to look up the number of reported self-driving miles driven seems to suggest that you assumed that the fatality rate was obviously skewed against human driving.

I brought up the IIHS stats to show that merely reporting an accident in isolation from a full statistical model doesn't prove anything.

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Re:Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street by danso on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:05PM (#16621138)

OK. And the person you responded to with the fatality stats said nothing about proving which way either:

> That's a very bad look; the whole point of self-driving cars is that they can react to unexpected circumstances much more quickly than a human operator, such as when someone walks out into the road. Sounds like Uber's platform may not be up to that standard yet, which makes me wonder why they're on public roads.

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Re:Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street by kerkeslager on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:14PM (#16621300)

I'm not sure how you can interpret what you're quoting as saying anything else.

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Re:Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street by danso on Monday March 19, 2018 @03:06PM (#16621987)

The commenter said it's a "very bad look". Followed by this:

> On the other hand, it sounds like it happened very recently; I guess we'll have to wait and see what happened.

How in the world do you see that as an assertion of proof.

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