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Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by diggan on Monday March 19, 2018 @12:50PM (#16619955)
I don't understand this. Someone just visits the URL and I get a email notification? If it's supposed to be secret, how does the script knows if the visit is OK or not, sending me the notification only when it's OK? Are the good guys supposed to know this is a sort of "honeypot" URL and not visit it?
Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by droopybuns on Monday March 19, 2018 @01:47PM (#16620871)
Put a URL in a firmware image that is never called by your device/app.

Monitor the URL for access. You then receive an alert that someone accessed the URL.

This gives you a real-time notification that a reverse engineer has looked at your firmware. It also gives you an IP address. So you now “know” that someone might try to hack your device. And you also have an IP address.

This is a billion dollar security play!

Jokes aside. It is a good concept for IoT firms who have a security advocate, but no budget. Would help persuade people that there are hackers targeting their devices/apps with quantifiable data of degrading value.

Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by dsacco on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:04PM (#16621124)
Huh. That’s...a good idea. The idea has to be developed further though. This has to be deployed on different domain names and with full content control on the web pages.

I guess that’s all doable with the “private server with root access” under enterprise pricing. What a great way to precisely measure cover time. You could inject arbitrary URLs into an application to see if your API has been reverse engineered.

Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by stordoff on Monday March 19, 2018 @09:13PM (#16625070)
I presume the idea is to make the URL appear to be part of the standard API (and maybe even does something useful to induce use?), but it is never actually called by a legitimate application?
Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by droopybuns on Monday March 19, 2018 @06:48PM (#16624051)
Hackers worth their salt work in air-gapped environments.

This is a signal, but not a game changer for security pros.

Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by dsacco on Monday March 19, 2018 @06:55PM (#16624112)
I’m speaking specifically about the case where someone is trying to reverse engineer a private API from an application. Then interacting with an API endpoint will necessarily trigger the canary.

Having retrieved API secrets offensively, and overseen secret rotation defensively, I’d say it would be a game changer. It’s an excellent idea to automate this discovery with an alarm. The current discovery system is either an internally developed, half-baked version of this that comes from sophisticated logging, or manual oversight.

Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by jstanley on Monday March 19, 2018 @12:52PM (#16619968)
You won't share the URL in a public place, you'll store it alongside whatever you're trying to keep safe.

If the URL gets accessed at all, you will know your secret has been leaked.

Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by dsacco on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:06PM (#16621155)
Friendly feedback, coming from a reverse engineer: the commenter who also answered this question gave a really good, concrete example of how this could be used in the context of DRM. When I visited your page I was initially perplexed as to why you’d want any of this. You should include a specific example of how this service delivers value, and the reverse engineering example is a good one.
Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by jstanley on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:13PM (#16621283)
Thanks for the feedback :)
Re:Show HN: URL Canary – Get an alert when someone finds you... by gricardo99 on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:58PM (#16621879)
You could also put it in something like your 1Password Vault. Although, if that's been hacked/accessed, you may not have time to save yourself.