Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into top earners

Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by prestonh on Sunday March 18, 2018 @03:17PM (#16613707)

I think you hit the nail on the head with a lot of your points. In particular:

>> 1. Smart, capable students have the "inferiority complex" of being surrounded by CalTech, USC, UCLA. They know they need to push harder to have equal footing when stepping into the industry.

I just ended my graduate studies at a UC school and had some miscellaneous encounters with CSU students, both undergrad and graduate. I found that for the most part they were just as capable as many UC students, but what set many of them apart was their maturity. This may be because many of them came from unconventional backgrounds, they were either lucky to be attending college or were attending college later on in life. At the same time, a lot of them felt like UC was a more legitimate college, or that they were somehow less intelligent because they were going to a state school.

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by MaxLeiter on Sunday March 18, 2018 @05:27PM (#16614467)

As a highschooler hearing back from UCs and CSUs at the moment, this is true from the start. The UCs are magnitudes harder to get in to vs the CSUs, and are therefore more prestigious.

However, that does depend on the CSU. Cal Poly is highly regarded (engineering-wise), while UC Merced or Riverside are often held at a "lower tier".

Anecdotally, a lot of people hold Chico at the bottom, and Berkeley/Cal at the top of CA public schools.

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by DrScump on Sunday March 18, 2018 @09:00PM (#16615472)

  Anecdotally, a lot of people hold Chico at the bottom

Fairly or unfairly, Chico State has a reputation within the CSU system as the "party school".

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by kfriede on Sunday March 18, 2018 @09:22PM (#16615567)

Similarly with UCSB on the UC side.

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by MaxLeiter on Sunday March 18, 2018 @10:14PM (#16615772)

I think UCSC is higher on the list of party UC schools

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by kenhwang on Sunday March 18, 2018 @11:04PM (#16615969)

UCSB is #2 in California, Chico #3, UCSC isn't even on the first page (#30).

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-party-schools/s/ca...

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by MaxLeiter on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:19AM (#16616461)

If this ranks Chico about UCSB it loses all credibility with me

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by DataWorker on Monday March 19, 2018 @10:39AM (#16618650)

No, and I’ve never heard anyone else make that mistake. Maybe you are not from California?

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by MaxLeiter on Monday March 19, 2018 @07:06PM (#16624204)

I’m in California, Bay Area.

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by nopmike on Sunday March 18, 2018 @09:22PM (#16615570)

I don't think this is unique to the LA area or even California and is a common misconception when people apply to colleges. As a high school or returning student you are told that some schools are better than others, and that might true from an entry standpoint. But, in most cases (except for ivy league or a Cal Tech, MIT) an employer is going to value your technical and interpersonal skills 1000x more than where you went to school.

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by kenhwang on Sunday March 18, 2018 @11:09PM (#16615979)

Maybe that's true for tech in the Bay. But everywhere else, for any other field, the very first filter applied to a stack of resumes is degree/school.

Your technical/interpersonal skills are definitely more important, but odds are you won't get a chance to demonstrate it.

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Re:Cal State L.A. turns the most low-income students into to... by morgancmartin on Monday March 19, 2018 @09:52AM (#16618326)

Yes, but they only look for the presence of the degree, not so much the pedigree of the school, barring Ivy leagues of course.

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