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Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by CydeWeys on Sunday March 18, 2018 @09:23AM (#16611815)
It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if they banned sightseeing helicopter flights entirely. They were already banned from overflying Manhattan decades ago after a particularly fatal crash, and serious crashes continue at an average rate of one per year, including one in 2009 that killed nine.

The most unappreciated aspect of the helicopters' impact, though, is the noise. They ruin the possibility for enjoyment of the waterfront for a several block radius around every pier that they use. When you run or bike past the piers along the waterfront you have to stop your conversation, they're that loud. And the combustion vapors they're giving off aren't pleasant either.

It really would contribute to the greater safety and enjoyment of all if they fully got rid of these flights. At least get their launch sites away from Manhattan, where they spoil the peaceful enjoyment of huge swaths of public waterfront.

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by Scoundreller on Sunday March 18, 2018 @10:51AM (#16612187)
Indeed, almost all flight traffic over the city of Paris is prohibited.

Exceptions exist fo military and medevac. Not sure if they even have police helicopters.

Has been since the world war.

It results in some interesting flight paths for jetliners.

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by mshook on Sunday March 18, 2018 @05:04PM (#16614322)
It's a common misconception: not all flights are forbidden.

Yes, almost all flights are forbidden above Paris, unless you're above 2000m (6600 ft) and you're a regular airliner or military transport...

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFT...

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by zombieprocesses on Sunday March 18, 2018 @11:25AM (#16612356)
> The most unappreciated aspect of the helicopters' impact, though, is the noise. They ruin the possibility for enjoyment of the waterfront for a several block radius around every pier that they use.

Agreed. I wish helicopters were banned or only allowed on high rise helipads. They are so loud that it hurts your ears if they are anywhere near your vicinity. Noise pollution should be a consideration as any form of pollution. Also, if helicopters fly by your building, you can feel it. It actually vibrates the building. It really gets on your nerves and affects your quality of life.

Helicopters and horse buggies in central park are two things we don't need in nyc.

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by jsmthrowaway on Sunday March 18, 2018 @09:52AM (#16611910)
Keep in mind that not every helicopter spoiling your waterfront is sightseeing. Public safety, medical, and even private travel helicopter flights are very common in New York, so if you ban sightseeing you’re still only part of the way there. I’d suggest that it’s really just the size of NYC causing the annoyance that you experience.

Look at the bright side: they aren’t Hueys. You’d probably lose your mind if a squadron of angry Hueys thumped up the FDR on the deck. At least the average 206 or Eurocopter you’d see is designed to be somewhat reasonable.

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by CydeWeys on Sunday March 18, 2018 @10:01AM (#16611940)
Private travel to/from Manhattan should be banned as well, for the same reasons.

As for public safety flights, e.g. police helicopters, they smartly launch from less populated parts of other boroughs, where noise pollution isn't as big of a problem and land is more available. As for medical flights, I don't think there are any that take off from or land in Manhattan. It just doesn't make sense. There aren't helipads near any hospitals that I know of, nor any space to put them, and there's no way you're going to safely land a helicopter on a street to load up a patient. We've already got several world-class hospitals in Manhattan anyway, so a quick ambulance drive is all it takes.

And as for the size of NYC, yes, there's 2 million people who live here in Manhattan full time and then a good deal more than that during the workday. So it's paramount to allocate our scarce resources in a way that maximizes the public good. Spoiling the pleasant enjoyment of so much prime waterfront real estate just for some helicopter flights doesn't make sense and isn't the best allocation of limited resources.

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by saalweachter on Sunday March 18, 2018 @12:44PM (#16612784)
> Private travel to/from Manhattan should be banned as well

I suspect this is more broad than you intended, but you'd probably find support for it as well.

Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by CydeWeys on Sunday March 18, 2018 @01:35PM (#16613074)
In context, it takes a very uncharitable reading to assume I was referring to anything other than helicopter travel.
Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by avs733 on Sunday March 18, 2018 @01:48PM (#16613161)
speaking for the OP, it was a joke. Unless he was proposing a remake of 1981 classic film.
Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by saalweachter on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:41PM (#16639820)
I mean, there's a recurring discussion on HN about eg congestion pricing in Manhattan. If you were to float a proposal that no private cars be allowed into Manhattan anymore (just buses, licensed taxis and delivery vehicles), a reasonable fraction of Manhattanites would be in favor.
Re:I know how hard it would have been to escape the helicopt... by maxerickson on Sunday March 18, 2018 @10:59AM (#16612233)
A major use of helipads is transport from small hospitals to larger institutions.

I guess there are lots of big hospitals outside of NYC proper though.